Show Notes for Episode 99

Episode 99 - Transcript

Shock Treatment the Musical, featuring Chat-GPT


Hello to all you. Unconventional convention is welcome to Rocky Talkie. A Rocky horror podcast. I'm Jacob. I'm Aaron and I'm Meg. Oh Jacob, where the fuck is my script writers? Like, are you part of the Writers Guild of America now? Solidarity. Brah. I see. Listen, man, I don't know when you're gonna have me write something and when you do, you pay me less than nothing literally because you pay me nothing. Yes. But that's like not cool. That's what the studios are doing since streaming shows are ordered in smaller batches than traditional network television. So they don't want to keep writers on staff. They've created a gig economy where writers are only hired for a few months before a show is green lit and then poof. No more job. Right. It's cheaper that way. Right. Right. Well, in solidarity then with the other greedy content producers out there, I'm just gonna replace you with chat GP. T Sure. Good luck. Chat GP. T uh write me an introduction script for a podcast called Rocky Talkie hosted by Aaron Jacob and Meg. The topics for today are the shock treatment. Stage show video. The New Jersey Con info drop. And I don't know a third thing about costumes uh create a Rocky horror related catchphrase for Jacob that Meg doesn't like and make sure to include some double entendres and make Jacob's catchphrase like a really bad rocky horror pun go opening music fades in then fades out. All right guys. Come on, you can, you can read what it says. Chop. Chop. Let's do this. Fuck you. Hey, hey, hey, welcome back to Rocky Talkie. The podcast where we explore the kinky and wonderful world of Rocky horror. You know it, Aaron. And today we're joined by the ever sexy meg. Say hi Meg. Hey there, boys and girls. I'm ready to get naughty with our Rocky discussions today. Oh my. Well, we've got some juicy topics for you all. Today. We're gonna be talking about the shock treatment, stage show video, the latest new Jersey con info drop and some steamy costume ideas that will leave you begging for more and speaking of begging for more, I've got a spicy new catch phrase. I want to try out. Brace yourselves. Meg. Oh boy, this can't be good. Are you a virgin? Because I've got a little something to show you in the back of my car. Face. Palms is the stage direction here. Oh, Jacob. That's not even a good pun. Well, we'll leave that for the listeners to decide. But before we get too hot and bothered, let's remind everyone to follow us on social media and leave us a five star review on your favorite podcast platform. And now let's do the pelvic thrust and dive into our first topic. The shock treatment stage show video. I feel dirty guys. What the fuck? Right. And just to be clear, all of that was actually written by Chat G BT off of that one prompt that I gave it. It's pretty soulless. So are the studios? All right. Right. So first up we're asking a question, Aaron, you were super excited about this one. What the hell is the shock treatment? Stage show video league. There was a shock treatment. Stage show. Hell yes, there was so ok. Just about two weeks ago or so, a user over on youtube posted a video that was titled Shock Treatment. The stage musical premiere, musical archive footage, King's head. The guy posted it in two parts. It's from a user named John Y and this is the only thing ever published to the channel. Sure, I can see why filmed versions of stage shows are often taken down by copyright strikes. Makes sense. You'd only have one video and this is that the stage show version of shock treatment. It is indeed. And here's what's super cool about this. So the shock treatment stage show is an adaptation of the film, but it only played in London from mid April to early June of 2015. And that's it. I am so mad that I didn't go see it, but this isn't just the movie on stage like a shadow cast or anything. It's a full blown written stage adaptation. Yeah, it is a whole new take, uh spearheaded by Benji Sparing, Tom Crowley and Alex Beein with the oversight of both Richard o'brien and Richard Hartley. That's two times the Richards according to a review on musical theater review dot com, the mu quote, the much anticipated stage adaptation created by o'brien and Tom Crowley takes the story down to its bare bones. Cuts a selection of the minor characters and focuses on social satire tinged with more than a hint of cross dressing and camp humor. End quote. That's definitely true. Now, fair warning, a bunch of this convo will obviously contain spoilers. So if you really want to be surprised at what's different, take an hour and a half, go watch the video. We'll wait. All right. So there's a lot to take in here. You're down to just seven characters in this adaptation. You've got Janet Brad Farley, Ralph, Betty Nation and Cosmo. And that's it. No ants along. No mom, no dad, no bet, no neely, no judge Wright, no Macy, no Ricky or Irwin or Vance or no Oscar drill and no bits, bits, I'll show you a bit. This is not a visual medium. Um But yeah, all those characters are cut or rolled into Ralph, Betty Nation and Cosmo. Ralph is a weird arc of like this closeted TV host who will sell his soul for fame. He sings a really fucking gay version of Thank God, I'm a man, which is pretty much the only reason for Harry to exist in shocky anyway. And also very adorably lined up with the way we do it at like cons and stuff. So I appreciate that. Yeah. And Ralph and Betty take over pretty much everything that bet was hanging around to do. And Betty is the one that offers Janet the compassionate shoulder to cry on so we can get rid of the mom. And let's be real Neely Macy, Ricky. And yes, even Ant along don't really do anything critical to the plot of Shocky. They're fun. They're often the characters that people identify with or love playing, but they're also window dressing for the plot. The first half of the show runs pretty much as you'd expect from the film. We open with D USA from Ralph and Betty with Cosmo, a Nation disguised as D TV crew for backup and a good healthy dose of audience sing along me and Mike uh has those signs that they hold up during the chorus of the song for the audience. Uh Him and his good friend Marty got them, his gifts from the cast, they signed them and even included Richard's signature Brad and Janet get called up for Marriage Maze and Brad gets bitching in the kitchen. We're introduced to Cosmo and Nation and Brad is drugged and committed to the sanity today. Sanatorium. Ralph's new arc gives him thank God. I'm a man and Janet sings a really great version of, in my own way. It's somber. It's melodramatic. It's, it's about Brad and it's like hinting that she, she wants more. It's very well done and it sets the tone of Janet's arc for the piece Farley is introduced with Ace and Janet's Battle with the limelight grows. We end the first half with the ensemble version of Lullaby complete with Nation and Cosmos, Hanky Panky. We come back with little black dress. Always satisfying. And the second curveball of the show furthering his arc. Ralph gets the first half of me of me, which actually makes a lot of damn sense. Janet picks up the second half of the song satisfyingly continuing her transformation into a star diva. We tidy up the previous songs with a bit of dialogue and we learn Ralph has decided that he no longer needs Betty in the light of Janet's new celebrity. Betty vows to discover what is going on here. Something smells fishy. Sorry. That is the same joke they use in the show. Then we're on to the title song this time with some actual shock treatment. Yeah, it's really there. Cosmo and Nation shock the shit out of Brad on live television all the while Janet is like voyeuristic shimmying in her little black dress while she watches Hot and Delicious. Then we've got one of the most underrated songs in the film Carte Blanche. And it gets a full treatment here. It serves to give us a peek at the Solas Media Company Corruption and is sung by Farley Cosmo Nation and Janet Betty Burson appalled that they electrocuted Brad on live television while Janet stands by, she rebuffs Betty brainwashed by the allure of celebrity. This is told through the revised song Looking For Fame and in a wonderful choice, it splits it with Ralph cementing him as a spineless. Do anything for fame. Little bitch. Yeah. These simple changes like really fix Looking for Trade no longer. Is it just a holdover song that Richard o'brien had written for Rocky Horror shows his heels with the change to Looking for Fame. It falls right into place. Oh, really? Looking For Trade wasn't written for shock treatment. Nope. In the Rocky Horror show says heels, script notes. We see I'm breaking out little black dress looking for Trade and I wanna be an ace. All of them not written for shock treatment. What we get next is probably the most surprising turn for the show opening with a slow sensual borderline gospel tone. Ralph begins the song Look what you did to my ID as a love song to Farley Farley being a proxy here for just general fame. And through some clever rewriting, it becomes an ensemble piece that just kind of sets up everybody's character for the Big Faith Factory resolution. That is very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Breaking out becomes a happy anthem for Ralph's desire to be a star. And the stage is set to electrocute Brad for a second time in an even more dangerous procedure. When suddenly for the second time in birth, Betty, she has done her sleuthing and can finally reveal that Cosmo and Nation are Du du du character actors. And here we get dual duet except we've dropped the side plot that Brad and Farley are brothers. So instead we turned the song into a literal knocked down brawl between newly snapped to our senses. Janet Betty and Brad against Cosmo Nation. Farley and Ralph. Oh man, that's terrible. Them being brothers is like the best part of shock treatment. I love that the most man and also completely irrelevant to the story. Like I never had thought about it before until this. Well, if they weren't brothers, we wouldn't know the whereabouts of Denton New Jersey. If they weren't brothers, Farley, Farley would never be Farley because you wouldn't have a brother to be upset at that. He got all the good things in life and he did, you know, then just, you know, kind of falls apart when they're not brothers. You know what I'm saying? Brad, who at this point has basically sat in his chair for the whole film finally gets a heartbreaking and soulful reprise of in my own way, which does a lot to tie back to Janet's initial angst version and really helps resolve their relationship. Yeah, I like this. It, it really feels like a callback to once in a while. Uh Maybe it is, maybe it's not, but I mean, whatever it really works to have thrown it in here. We wrap up with anyhow. Anyhow, Janet and Brad and Betty make their escape. Ralph takes Brad's place in the electric chair. Still willing to do anything for fame And Farley Cosmo and Nation are ready to flip the switch and scene. We did it. So yeah, it is really, really, really fucking cool to get to finally see a recording of this show. If, if you out there were interested in the plot that we just described and the changes that they made like, absolutely go take a watch. Anybody who loves shock treatment should go check it out. It is fantastic. Do we know anything else about this specific recording? It says it's the premiere. Is that true? Well, uh in 2016 at the B F I Denton convention over in the UK. That was the 30th anniversary for shock treatment. Uh Mad Man, Mike, friend of the show, former New York City cast director and the shock treatment. Fan club president. He interviewed the creative team behind the stage show. We asked him about this recording on top of interviewing the team, he saw the show multiple times during its run. Mike pointed out that the video features Pete Gallagher in the role of Farley. He was the second actor to play the role when the show opened, it featured Mark Little stunt cast following his role as Joe Magne in Neighbors Gallagher wasn't a stranger to Rocky Horror. He played Eddie and Doctor Scott in a 1994 UK version of the Rocky Horror Show. His appearance puts this recording after May 10th when he joined the cast. So it's not from the premiere. It's probably from the second half of the run. Madman. Mike said his interpretation of Farley was much preferred. So I think we lucked out there. Yeah. Uh Mike also indulged me in a little bit of speculation and uh in his opinion, it likely wasn't possible to get the angle that this video was filmed from, from the audience. So that leads me to believe that this is actually most likely as the youtube video implies archival footage or maybe just a recording that the theater did, but something official and not a bootleg. It's also a different performance from the handful of bootleg audio recordings that have surfaced over the years. So it really is a brand new content drop for the community. Yeah, I've, I love this. I've watched through this thing, I think three times now. Uh So guys, what do you think? I mean, any closing thoughts on Shocky the musical, I really enjoyed it. The circumstances under which I watched it were both more and less ideal than the average bear. I think I've seen it once and I watched it once after Aaron had already watched it three times and we got home from going out to a club one night and we were both sauced. Of course, we came home and he was like, sweetie, sit down on the couch, we're gonna watch Shock treatment. So we watched shock treatment at like, I don't know, 5 36 o'clock in the morning both like gone from being at this club the whole night. And he gave me like a running commentary all the way through it. Literally like sitting there listening to the commentary on a Blu Ray. So I don't feel like I got the full shock treatment experience as the cast meant for me to have, but I do feel like I got a full experience. So pretty good. 10 out of 10 recommend the commentary. Sorry, it doesn't exist anymore. You can uh watch it another time, just duct tape my mouth shut before we start. Jacob. What about you? How do you, how, how is shock treatment? The musical before today? You didn't even know that shock treatment was a stage show, right? Yeah. Yeah, I was, I was quite surprised and, and still am I think, I think a lot of my uh how I perceive a lot of the movies in the rocky sphere is that the fun of them is like the massive sprawling casts and the wacky outfits. And how incredibly weird and out there everything is and, you know, different interpretations of art I think is always a good thing. It leads to discoveries of new things. So there's nothing wrong with uh shock treatment being turned into a stage play. And I'm sure the people who viewed this had a lot of fun. But personally, I am always gonna be preferential to the original and to like the, the the biggest cast with all the characters. So yeah, maybe each one of them isn't integral to the crux of the film. And you know, you take out ants along, you don't lose anything except for a sexy nurse. But still, you know, every, every few seconds seeing a sexy nurse or a hair, brain scientist doing hair, brain scientist things or like any one of the weird people doing their weird thing is like half the fun of viewing shock treatment for me. So, yeah, I, I, I liked it but uh I also didn't like it for the fact that it was just the bare bones and it was more trying to say something. It was more, it was more a, a commentary, art with commentary than it was art just for the quirkiness of art's sake. Yeah. In an interview, uh Benji Spring, he, he was uh the musical director on this. Um most of the ideas here came from him for how to kind of re rework this show and he clearly sat down and thought about this a lot like the, the choices that were made here are really clean. They tighten up the plot in a way that honestly, I did not think you could tighten shock treatment up to be a cohesive plot like this. It, it really took a lot of work and, and it shows, it shows how well that was done. Tom Crowley wrote the book. Uh So there's a ton of new dialogue that's gonna be the big thing. If you go and watch this, you're gonna notice that there is just a shit load of dialogue that was not there in the film. A lot of that is to kind of piece these songs together, tighten it up and like just accommodate the fact that we don't have all these other characters and the magic of film going on with us. But I, I really like it. I think it's really different and because this is basically the only version of this publicly that exists out there. I mean, this is gonna be the de facto version of this show at the, of the stage show version of this that anyone who wants to see it in the future is gonna be looking at. I don't hate that. Uh I think the book was really strong. I remember really liking the book and enjoying all of the changes that were made to the music. And I think that with a stage show that's kind of the bones of it, you know, and I think anything else, any other choices that are made with it, the set and the, the costuming and even character additions and subtractions, anyone who's doing this will presumably watch the movie, so you can see what it's like with more characters. So you can always separate them back out if you want to. But I like the, the book that they went with and I think that will be the persevering thing. Hopefully, speaking of the costumes, uh can we, I mean, this is, this is a tiny, tiny nitpick but like little black dress that, that little black dress that she wears has both straps and a back. It is not a strapless, backless little back dress. It is a strapped back to little rock dress. Well, maybe he was singing about a different dress that he wore when he was a young, what's the German? Maybe? Maybe he was reminiscent and then he Janet had a different little black. Still an interesting choice. I love the rest of the costumes. Faith Factory. They do some really interesting choices. They, they switch them to white just like in the film. That's great. But they kind of go at least with Janet for this like pleather look which I don't dislike, but it kind of just makes her look like she went to Spirit of Halloween and picked out a nurse's outfit. She did. Yeah. Uh Yeah, I mean, there's some fantastic performances in here. The guy playing Ralph is just, I was not on Team Ralph at the start of the show. By the end of it, I loved what he did with this character. He's kind of channeling like this really early Jim Carrey kind of vibe. He does all of the like crazy Jim Carrey facial expressions and mannerisms. I some of the reviews noticed this and specifically called this out that he reminded them of that. I mean, I'm pretty sure I even caught him mouthing and like an alrighty then at some point. So that might just be me thinking what I want to see, but like he really sold it. I was really impressed by his performance. How many times have you watched this? Three? It might be four. It might, it might be, I I did watch it twice while I was writing the script just in pieces. So it might be five. I mean, well, Chat G BT was writing the script. It might be five times now, actually, um 11 thing I wanted to say, uh we mentioned, we mentioned Mad Man watched this three times live and Jesus Christ, this thing only ran for like 2.5 months if that. Um oh my God. What, what incredible like fortune to I, I mean, I I don't think anyone foresaw or was thinking about, oh, well, this is only gonna be running for 2.5 months. I better see it as many times as I can. Right. No one knows the fate of a theatrical production, um, until it's over and, like, the, the, the fortune of like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna see this three times and then it closes in 2.5 months. Like, Mad man might be the person outside of the cast and, you know, producers or anyone like, involved to have seen this the most like that is, that's awesome. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. He's the president of the Shock Treatment fan club. But yeah, absolutely. He did a bunch of interviews. Uh right when this was coming out with the creative team that was behind it. Some of those are still posted up on Facebook, you gotta scroll back to 2015. Uh but on the Shock Treatment fan club page, uh there's some really great interviews with uh Tom Crowley and some of the other folks behind it and it really exposes a lot of, a lot of the interesting kind of stuff that they went through. Fun fact, uh the guy who wrote the book, not familiar with Rocky Horror or the source material really at all before they brought him on to do it. So he really did a, a job that throws back well and resonates with Rocky people and the kinds of things they want to see out of it without having been a hardcore fan himself. That's something. Yeah, I, I was kind of blown away and, like, I, I won't lie. I've listened to the bootleg sound recordings of this show several times. There's a couple of them out there. Um, they're pretty hard to find but, you know, um, they do not do it justice. They absolutely do not. You, you, you have a picture in your head when you listen to those and it's so tainted by what, you know, from the film that when you actually watch what they put on stage, it's, it's, it's mind blowing, it's completely different. And yeah, like you were saying, Jake, if they had no idea whether this was going to go on or not, there was definitely talks uh as the, the run was coming to a close that oh maybe they'd bring it somewhere else or any of these kind of things. Well, you know, we're eight years later, we know that didn't happen. Uh It's never been and honestly, it probably won't be, I mean, somebody would have to really love shock treatment and throw a ton of money at a state show to put this thing on again, let alone being able to get the rights because you got to go back to Richard o'brien and Richard Hartley just to get the rights for this fucking thing. Oh my God. How many episodes we've done about how difficult it is to procure the rights? I think just for Rocky Horror, I can't imagine the trauma it is to procure the rights for shock treatment. I bet Shocky is less. I bet Shocky is less crazy. I mean, who knows? Because, I mean, they, they were very interested when, when uh the creative team came to them with this and like they wanted oversight over it. And Tom Crowley mentions in one of his interviews that like, it didn't cross his mind until he was almost done with the script that like, oh, shit, Richard o'brien is gonna read what I did to this and he's gonna see it and he's gonna have opinions. Uh So it's pretty fun. Um It turned out really good though, like, you know, it's not, it's not a crazy big budget West End musical or anything like that. This was at the king said um hilariously where Rocky first premiered, it's in the same theater that Rocky Horror premiered in, in 1973. Uh Super fucking cool. And I'm sure that that alone was an experience for all of the Rocky Horror fans that got to go see it. Um But it really interesting, really, really interesting. I'm just, I'm just completely pumped that this is out there now. And with that, I think it's about time that we chatted up about some big con updates. A lot of New Jersey con organizers F N S dropped a whole bucket of information this last week and opened up registration for all the con activities you would expect. Naked alien foam pit and that one's not on the list. Cat's Butt Hole Orgy. I don't think you sign up for that in advance. Maybe you don't. But you can now sign up for the Rocky Horror Talent show. Register vendor tables, submit live and video preshow and submit for ad slots in the program. You're kind of burying the lead. There. Also auditions are now open for Rocky Shocky, Mama Mia and the big reveal. Repo the Genetic Opera. All right, we're doing repo. Cool, cool, cool, cool. So if you want in on any of those shows, all auditions require videos. So get those film director hats on and submit your very best F N S says they can be creative, they can be show footage, whatever you want. Just got to make a video and get it on over to them and if you still haven't gotten your ticket, probably best to do that soon. Prices go up. June 1st. The deadline is June 26th for all the big stuff, Rocky Shocky Rio, Mama Mia, the talent show and video and live. Preshow. Get your shit together. Casts. Don't be a New York City cast and do fuck all for your con. Preshow meg. Hey, are we doing a preshow? I don't know. Yeah. Uh-huh, I don't fucking, that's what I thought I have to do everything on by myself. Fucking stupid fucking advertising deadline for the program is July 8th. I'm not sure about the vendor deadline but space is always limited at every convention best. Get that in sooner rather than later. So come on, Aaron you in for some mama. I think I will sit that one out but oh my God, I am sure shit excited to see it like I don't know what the fuck that's gonna look like, but I am here for it. Let's do it. Come on, so get on it, guys, get those submissions in. That means you go to N J Rocky con dot com and do it in wider community news. We want to give a quick shout out to the heavy petting cast out in Tucson Arizona for their recent production of Clue. Now there's a shadow cast. We can all get behind. What do you think, Jacob? Who would you play in? Clue? Uh Man, I don't remember the names of all of them and like or the actors or anything but the lady who was dressed in all black. I feel like they all had a very dry sense of humor but she was like, come on. Yes, exactly. I would, I would love to be that character. Oh my God, dibs. I feel like you are that fucking dibs on your vet like you know what you want to see me in a dress. Do clue. I, I will be the sexy French maid. Let's go. All right. I want to see, I want to see Aaron as a holy shit. We've got to do this now mag, if Aaron's willing to dress up like that, it would be so ridiculous. I think it would be hilarious to do like a drag Yvette as like this. Like, what would you do, sweetie? What, who, who is your clue? Clue? Uh uh Petroni, my clue. Petroni probably Wadsworth because he fucking runs around the house all the time like a chicken without a head. Yeah, I could see you just running around like an angry, angry little butler. Can I be Mr Body? You want to be dead in the first act and just hauled around for the rest of the show? Oh my God. How fun would that be? You just do like dead work the whole time. Make everybody hate you and you get to be the biggest dick, but he was actually the butler. I don't know. It depends which ending you think is the real one. I love it. I love it. Yeah. That's awesome. That would be so much fun to shadow cast and so much work so good on you. Heavy petting for putting all that together. That sounds like a lot of coordination and I'm sure it was really awesome to watch. Yeah. Big congrats to everybody over at heavy petting and all the way over here on the East coast. Buffalo. That's right. Our friends at the Francis Bacon experiment have announced a September 9th shadow cast of the room. You heard me right? The room in its spoon flinging glory is coming to Buffalo. So yeah, get your tickets for that soon. I'm sure like all of their shows. It's gonna sell out so fast. And last up, we've got a fun new costuming resource for everyone out there. Rocky costume wizard Dave Rogers with the rich weirdos cast down in Florida recently published a new blog with a wealth of fantastic costuming content. Yeah, Dave's been super active in the Rocky Costuming group and has been experimenting with a lot of details that haven't really been focused on before. Now, you might ask me, what do you mean? We've been doing Rocky costume for 40 years. What I'm talking about things like the paisley print for Frank's dinner corset replicating the pattern that's on Frank's garter belt, the patterning that's on Brad's wedding dress shirt. They also threw up vectors of the butterflies on Brad's robe. Like the list just goes on and on. This is some nerd level shit. I will proudly say I had no idea. Brad's dress shirt has a pattern on it. We all know you didn't know that. Hey, one of my favorites is all the costume Quick Sheets. It's really great illustrations for many of the characters and the Transylvanian. There's also a lot of posts documenting the building of many of the major costume pieces, including patterns and tons of really great high res photos. Yeah, absolutely. Everybody should go check it out book market. It's at Doctor Rocky blog dot wordpress dot com. All right. That sounds pretty cool. I've always wanted to put together a Christopher Biggins costume. Why? Because I'll put on anything to be big and D's nuts boom catchphrase. You know, I like chat GP T S catchphrase better. Yeah, Jacob. Are you a virgin? Because I've got a little something to show you in the back of my car. Um Mom pick me up. I'm scared and that I think is all the nudes fit to print. As always, we would love to thank our editor Aaron from Tennessee for all of his work, dude. We appreciate the shit out of you. If anyone has a question, they'd like us to research for our ask a question segment or some community news they'd like us to talk about or even a cool story to share with the community. We'd love to include it in our show. Just go to our website rocky talkie podcast dot com and fill out our contact form to tell us all about it. If you're enjoying Rocky Talkie, please help us out by rating, reviewing and subscribing to the show. And if you want even more Rocky Talky content, check out our blog at rocky talky podcast dot com and our social accounts on Facebook, youtube and Instagram all at you guessed it, Rocky Talkie Podcast. We'll talk to you next week. Bye bye. Also full disclaimer for any of you out there who are wondering yes, chat GP T did write that introduction. It did not write anything else in this script. And also, you know, everything I say is heavily um monitored and construed before I say it. So I am using chat GP T to speak audience and have been since episode one. If you haven't picked up on that, you're a fucking moron the way you talk, I would have thought it was like a speaking spell. What, what is that? Goddamn it? Fucking miss the miss the mark by like a decade and a half. It's a children's toy from the eighties that like it, it told you what to say. You, you'd put little cards in it and be like, it would show you a cat and you'd have to, it would say cat and you'd push the letters for cat, you'd go like c they'd be like, yeah, you fucking shit. So what you're saying is if I try hard enough and I make enough of my own cards, I can, I can make the voice box for a slutty blow up doll, that's what you're saying. Absolutely. Million percent. Uh-huh. Yeah, I, I believe in the dream. All right. Right. So before we move on, I just, I'm like infuriated by this chat G BT creation as, as many of us, I'm sure know Chat GP T does not allow illicit material to be created by itself. But there are like, uh you know, freelancer, like individual developers who have grouped together to make, like, mimic programs. Like, not as good as Chat GP T but, uh, I think there, there's one that's really good for like, creating D and D scenarios. I forget the name of it, but there's, there are a bunch of them made and I've been trying, but I, I have like this one really good erotica that I've been reading for like, months. It's my favorite right now and I've been trying to get one of these programs to like make extra content from the original and Jesus Christ, they're terrible. It, it maybe I'll get one sentence. That kind of makes sense. But the rest of it like literally just doesn't make sense in context of the rest of the material. And this, this is like, God, we, we read that and I feel like we could have read that as a regular episode and, and you listeners would have been like, yeah, checks out. Uh It's just man, one day our fucking technology will catch up with porn or porn will catch up with our technology, one or the other and I'll get to Jack off in peace and that'll be a good day. OK. First of all, I would like to say that porn tends to be like pretty cutting edge and like leading in the tech industries. So I, I'm certain we've got our best people working on this. Like, honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if most of the porn scripts that exist were already written by bots and we just didn't fucking know. And also you're a programmer, you do computer things. Why don't you make the porn porn G BT? I cannot make, I, I'm a programmer. I am not fucking porn GP. T, I don't know if fucking Aaron is even porn GP T level programming. Aaron could you make porn G BT? Got to read it and make it just a lot of eroticas. Uh I mean, I could probably figure out the, the problem with all of these is the training data, right? You need so much pornography to train. Uh, I mean, you know what? This does sound like something I might be qualified to do. Never mind. Um, I got you. OK. So here's a funny story. This, this joke that, uh, that Jacob does, I'll put on anything to be Biggins. D's nuts. So I asked chat GP T to write me a, uh, subversive pun using a character named Biggins. That was the only thing I could get it to do because I, when I asked it to be like, write me a dirty joke with Christopher Biggins. It was like, I can't do that. That's a real name. I can't write you a dirty joke with a real name, but it, it would. Yeah, but then I was like, OK, fine, write me a subversive joke, da da da da. And it came back with like, I'll wear anything that makes me look Biggins or something like that. And I was like, ok, that's enough. I, I see where we're going with that chat BT. I can, I can just add the word D's nuts at the end and it's funny. So, chat CPD gets half credit on that joke. But thank you halfway chat, chat GB, like, wasn't willing to deface a public figure. Is that, that's the whole thing. Yeah. And it wouldn't let, it refused to use a real person's name and it refused to write a sexy joke. It refused to write a subversive joke. I had to phrase it a very specific way. I, yeah, I, why is this weird? Did Chat G BT write this line? Chat GP, t, didn't write any of this? Well, maybe it should have, why don't you put a preshow together, Jacob? I'm not, I don't uh I have so much in comparison to you that, you know my, I, oh God damn, I'm tripping over my words. You so much in the side of my face. You have so much more knowledge in the preshow and rocky area. You've got so much more experience and you have so many more connections to like past leadership of cast. You are the person to create a preshow if it's gonna be any buddy, I've, I've only been to one con ever. So, you know, put that in your pipe and smoke it. I've never put a preshow together. You neither have I, I, I don't, and I will not admit to having ever put a preshow together in fear. I might be asked to do it again. Our doorman's name is Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. So every time I walk into my building I go, oh, hi, Mark. And he doesn't get it, but I do. And I feel dirty. Please carry that energy with you as you rehearse for the room guys. Oh, right. I'm gonna have, I'm gonna steal. Are you a virgin? Because I've got to let somebody in the back of my car. That's, that's really good. It's actually chat actually wrote you a new catchphrase. Yeah, that's fuck, man, guys. We gotta wait for him. Ok? 10 9, we'll just leave it in an hour, hour and a half of dead, dead dead. It's a 42 minute 27 long video. So I'll count from 0 to 60 once and then me and then Aaron will do it and then we'll repeat that uh about 15 times and that'll be about 45 minutes and then that's only the first half though. There's a second video. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh yeah, we'll loop us counting the 60 45 times twice. So that yeah. Ok. Jacob you start. Ok. 1234. I thought I'm going too fast. This is, I got to do seconds. One Mississippi, two, Mississippi. All right. So, so there's a beat in there. I don't know how you want to make that a beat, but good luck. So.
Hello to all you. Unconventional convention is welcome to Rocky Talkie. A Rocky horror podcast. I'm Jacob. I'm

Aaron


and
I'm Meg. Oh

Jacob
, where the fuck is my script writers? Like, are you part of the Writers Guild of America

now
? Solidarity. Brah.

I
see.

Listen
, man, I don't know when you're gonna have me write something and when you do, you pay me less than nothing literally because you pay me nothing.

Yes
.

But
that's like not cool. That's what the studios are doing since streaming shows are ordered in smaller batches than traditional network television. So they don't want to keep writers on staff. They've created a gig economy where writers are only hired for a few months before a show is green lit and then poof. No more job.

Right
. It's cheaper that way.

Right
.

Right
.

Well
, in solidarity then with the other greedy content producers out there, I'm just gonna replace you with chat GP. T

Sure
. Good luck.

Chat
GP. T uh write me an introduction script for a podcast called Rocky Talkie hosted by Aaron Jacob and Meg. The topics for today are the shock treatment. Stage show video. The New Jersey Con info drop. And I don't know a third thing about costumes uh create a Rocky horror related catchphrase for Jacob that Meg doesn't like and make sure to include some double entendres and make Jacob's catchphrase like a really bad rocky horror pun go opening music fades in then fades out. All right guys. Come on, you can, you can read what it says. Chop. Chop. Let's do this.

Fuck
you.

Hey
, hey, hey, welcome back to Rocky Talkie. The podcast where we explore the kinky and wonderful world of Rocky horror.

You
know it, Aaron. And today we're joined by the ever sexy meg. Say hi Meg.

Hey
there, boys and girls. I'm ready to get naughty with our Rocky discussions today. Oh

my
. Well, we've got some juicy topics for you all. Today. We're gonna be talking about the shock treatment, stage show video, the latest new Jersey con info drop and some steamy costume ideas that will leave you begging for more

and
speaking of begging for more, I've got a spicy new catch phrase. I want to try out. Brace yourselves. Meg.

Oh
boy, this can't be good.

Are
you a virgin? Because I've got a little something to show you in the back of my car.

Face
. Palms is the stage direction here. Oh, Jacob. That's not even a good pun.

Well
, we'll leave that for the listeners to decide. But before we get too hot and bothered, let's remind everyone to follow us on social media and leave us a five star review on your favorite podcast platform.

And
now let's do the pelvic thrust and dive into our first topic. The shock treatment stage show video. I feel dirty guys. What the fuck?

Right
. And just to be clear, all of that was actually written by Chat G BT off of that one prompt that I gave it.

It's
pretty soulless.

So
are the studios? All right.

Right
. So first up we're asking a question, Aaron, you were super excited about this one. What the hell is the shock treatment? Stage show video

league
. There was a shock treatment. Stage show.

Hell
yes, there was so ok. Just about two weeks ago or so, a user over on youtube posted a video that was titled Shock Treatment. The stage musical premiere, musical archive footage, King's head. The guy posted it in two parts.

It's
from a user named John Y and this is the only thing ever published to the channel. Sure, I can see why filmed versions of stage shows are often taken down by copyright strikes. Makes sense. You'd only have one video and this is that the stage show version of shock treatment. It

is
indeed. And here's what's super cool about this. So the shock treatment stage show is an adaptation of the film, but it only played in London from mid April to early June of 2015. And that's it. I am so mad that I didn't go see it,

but
this isn't just the movie on stage like a shadow cast or anything. It's a full blown written stage adaptation.

Yeah
, it is a whole new take, uh spearheaded by Benji Sparing, Tom Crowley and Alex Beein with the oversight of both Richard o'brien and Richard Hartley.

That's
two times the Richards according to a review on musical theater review dot com, the mu quote, the much anticipated stage adaptation created by o'brien and Tom Crowley takes the story down to its bare bones. Cuts a selection of the minor characters and focuses on social satire tinged with more than a hint of cross dressing and camp humor. End quote.

That's
definitely true. Now, fair warning, a bunch of this convo will obviously contain spoilers. So if you really want to be surprised at what's different, take an hour and a half, go watch the video. We'll wait.

All
right. So there's a lot to take in here. You're down to just seven characters in this adaptation. You've got Janet Brad Farley, Ralph, Betty Nation and Cosmo. And that's it.

No
ants along. No mom, no dad, no bet, no neely, no judge Wright, no Macy, no Ricky or Irwin or Vance or no Oscar drill and no bits, bits,

I'll
show you a bit.

This
is not a visual medium. Um But yeah, all those characters are cut or rolled into Ralph, Betty Nation and Cosmo. Ralph is a weird arc of like this closeted TV host who will sell his soul for fame. He sings a really fucking gay version of Thank God, I'm a man, which is pretty much the only reason for Harry to exist in shocky anyway. And also very adorably lined up with the way we do it at like cons and stuff. So I appreciate that.

Yeah
. And Ralph and Betty take over pretty much everything that bet was hanging around to do. And Betty is the one that offers Janet the compassionate shoulder to cry on so we can get rid of the mom.

And
let's be real Neely Macy, Ricky. And yes, even Ant along don't really do anything critical to the plot of Shocky. They're fun. They're often the characters that people identify with or love playing, but they're also window dressing for the plot.

The
first half of the show runs pretty much as you'd expect from the film. We open with D USA from Ralph and Betty with Cosmo, a Nation disguised as D TV crew for backup

and
a good healthy dose of audience sing along

me
and Mike uh has those signs that they hold up during the chorus of the song for the audience. Uh Him and his good friend Marty got them, his gifts from the cast, they signed them and even included Richard's signature

Brad
and Janet get called up for Marriage Maze and Brad gets bitching in the kitchen. We're introduced to Cosmo and Nation and Brad is drugged and committed to the sanity today. Sanatorium. Ralph's

new
arc gives him thank God. I'm a man and Janet sings a really great version of, in my own way. It's somber. It's melodramatic. It's, it's about Brad and it's like hinting that she, she wants more. It's very well done and it sets the tone of Janet's arc for the piece

Farley
is introduced with Ace and Janet's Battle with the limelight grows. We end the first half with the ensemble version of Lullaby complete with Nation and Cosmos, Hanky Panky.

We
come back with little black dress. Always satisfying.

And
the second curveball of the show furthering his arc. Ralph gets the first half of me of me, which actually makes a lot of damn sense. Janet picks up the second half of the song satisfyingly continuing her transformation into a star diva.

We
tidy up the previous songs with a bit of dialogue and we learn Ralph has decided that he no longer needs Betty in the light of Janet's new celebrity. Betty vows to discover what is going on here. Something smells fishy.

Sorry
. That is the same joke they use in the show. Then we're on to the title song this time with some actual shock treatment. Yeah, it's really there. Cosmo and Nation shock the shit out of Brad on live television all the while Janet is like voyeuristic shimmying in her little black dress while she watches

Hot
and Delicious.

Then
we've got one of the most underrated songs in the film Carte Blanche. And it gets a full treatment here. It serves to give us a peek at the Solas Media Company Corruption and is sung by Farley Cosmo Nation and Janet Betty

Burson
appalled that they electrocuted Brad on live television while Janet stands by, she rebuffs Betty brainwashed by the allure of celebrity.

This
is told through the revised song Looking For Fame and in a wonderful choice, it splits it with Ralph cementing him as a spineless. Do anything for fame. Little bitch. Yeah.

These
simple changes like really fix Looking for Trade no longer. Is it just a holdover song that Richard o'brien had written for Rocky Horror shows his heels with the change to Looking for Fame. It falls right into place.

Oh
, really? Looking For Trade wasn't written for shock

treatment
. Nope. In the Rocky Horror show says heels, script notes. We see I'm breaking out little black dress looking for Trade and I wanna be an ace.

All
of them not written for shock treatment. What we get next is probably the most surprising turn for the show opening with a slow sensual borderline gospel tone. Ralph begins the song Look what you did to my ID as a love song to Farley Farley being a proxy here for just general fame. And through some clever rewriting, it becomes an ensemble piece that just kind of sets up everybody's character for the Big Faith Factory resolution.

That
is very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Breaking out becomes a happy anthem for Ralph's desire to be a star. And the stage is set to electrocute Brad for a second time in an even more dangerous procedure.

When
suddenly for the second time in birth, Betty, she has done her sleuthing and can finally reveal that Cosmo and Nation are Du du du character actors.

And
here we get dual duet except we've dropped the side plot that Brad and Farley are brothers. So instead we turned the song into a literal knocked down brawl between newly snapped to our senses. Janet Betty and Brad against Cosmo Nation. Farley and Ralph.

Oh
man, that's terrible. Them being brothers is like the best part of shock treatment. I love that the most man

and
also completely irrelevant to the story. Like I never had thought about it before until this.

Well
, if they weren't brothers, we wouldn't know the whereabouts of Denton New Jersey.

If
they weren't brothers, Farley, Farley would never be Farley because you wouldn't have a brother to be upset at that. He got all the good things in life and he did, you know, then just, you know, kind of falls apart when they're not brothers. You know what I'm saying? Brad, who at this point has basically sat in his chair for the whole film finally gets a heartbreaking and soulful reprise of in my own way, which does a lot to tie back to Janet's initial angst version and really helps resolve their relationship. Yeah,

I
like this. It, it really feels like a callback to once in a while. Uh Maybe it is, maybe it's not, but I mean, whatever it really works to have thrown it in here.

We
wrap up with anyhow. Anyhow, Janet and Brad and Betty make their escape. Ralph takes Brad's place in the electric chair. Still willing to do anything for fame And Farley Cosmo and Nation are ready to flip the switch and scene.

We
did it. So yeah, it is really, really, really fucking cool to get to finally see a recording of this show. If, if you out there were interested in the plot that we just described and the changes that they made like, absolutely go take a watch. Anybody who loves shock treatment should go check it out. It is fantastic.

Do
we know anything else about this specific recording? It says it's the premiere. Is that true?

Well
, uh in 2016 at the B F I Denton convention over in the UK. That was the 30th anniversary for shock treatment. Uh Mad Man, Mike, friend of the show, former New York City cast director and the shock treatment. Fan club president. He interviewed the creative team behind the stage show.

We
asked him about this recording on top of interviewing the team, he saw the show multiple times during its run. Mike pointed out that the video features Pete Gallagher in the role of Farley. He was the second actor to play the role when the show opened, it featured Mark Little stunt cast following his role as Joe Magne in Neighbors

Gallagher
wasn't a stranger to Rocky Horror. He played Eddie and Doctor Scott in a 1994 UK version of the Rocky Horror Show. His appearance puts this recording after May 10th when he joined the cast. So it's not from the premiere. It's probably from the second half of the

run
. Madman. Mike said his interpretation of Farley was much preferred. So I think we lucked out there.

Yeah
. Uh Mike also indulged me in a little bit of speculation and uh in his opinion, it likely wasn't possible to get the angle that this video was filmed from, from the audience. So that leads me to believe that this is actually most likely as the youtube video implies archival footage or maybe just a recording that the theater did, but something official and not a bootleg. It's also

a
different performance from the handful of bootleg audio recordings that have surfaced over the years. So it really is a brand new content drop for the community.

Yeah
, I've, I love this. I've watched through this thing, I think three times now. Uh So guys, what do you think? I mean, any closing thoughts on Shocky the musical, I

really
enjoyed it. The circumstances under which I watched it were both more and less ideal than the average bear. I think I've seen it once and I watched it once after Aaron had already watched it three times and we got home from going out to a club one night and we were both sauced. Of course, we came home and he was like, sweetie, sit down on the couch, we're gonna watch Shock treatment. So we watched shock treatment at like, I don't know, 5 36 o'clock in the morning both like gone from being at this club the whole night. And he gave me like a running commentary all the way through it. Literally like sitting there listening to the commentary on a Blu Ray. So I don't feel like I got the full shock treatment experience as the cast meant for me to have, but I do feel like I got a full experience. So pretty good. 10 out of 10 recommend the commentary. Sorry, it doesn't exist anymore. You

can
uh watch it another time, just duct tape my mouth shut before we start. Jacob. What about you? How do you, how, how is shock treatment? The musical before today? You didn't even know that shock treatment was a stage show, right? Yeah.

Yeah
, I was, I was quite surprised and, and still am I think, I think a lot of my uh how I perceive a lot of the movies in the rocky sphere is that the fun of them is like the massive sprawling casts and the wacky outfits. And how incredibly weird and out there everything is and, you know, different interpretations of art I think is always a good thing. It leads to discoveries of new things. So there's nothing wrong with uh shock treatment being turned into a stage play. And I'm sure the people who viewed this had a lot of fun. But personally, I am always gonna be preferential to the original and to like the, the the biggest cast with all the characters. So yeah, maybe each one of them isn't integral to the crux of the film. And you know, you take out ants along, you don't lose anything except for a sexy nurse. But still, you know, every, every few seconds seeing a sexy nurse or a hair, brain scientist doing hair, brain scientist things or like any one of the weird people doing their weird thing is like half the fun of viewing shock treatment for me. So, yeah, I, I, I liked it but uh I also didn't like it for the fact that it was just the bare bones and it was more trying to say something. It was more, it was more a, a commentary, art with commentary than it was art just for the quirkiness of art's

sake
. Yeah. In an interview, uh Benji Spring, he, he was uh the musical director on this. Um most of the ideas here came from him for how to kind of re rework this show and he clearly sat down and thought about this a lot like the, the choices that were made here are really clean. They tighten up the plot in a way that honestly, I did not think you could tighten shock treatment up to be a cohesive plot like this. It, it really took a lot of work and, and it shows, it shows how well that was done. Tom Crowley wrote the book. Uh So there's a ton of new dialogue that's gonna be the big thing. If you go and watch this, you're gonna notice that there is just a shit load of dialogue that was not there in the film. A lot of that is to kind of piece these songs together, tighten it up and like just accommodate the fact that we don't have all these other characters and the magic of film going on with us. But I, I really like it. I think it's really different and because this is basically the only version of this publicly that exists out there. I mean, this is gonna be the de facto version of this show at the, of the stage show version of this that anyone who wants to see it in the future is gonna be looking at.

I
don't hate that. Uh I think the book was really strong. I remember really liking the book and enjoying all of the changes that were made to the music. And I think that with a stage show that's kind of the bones of it, you know, and I think anything else, any other choices that are made with it, the set and the, the costuming and even character additions and subtractions, anyone who's doing this will presumably watch the movie, so you can see what it's like with more characters. So you can always separate them back out if you want to. But I like the, the book that they went with and I think that will be the persevering thing. Hopefully,

speaking
of the costumes, uh can we, I mean, this is, this is a tiny, tiny nitpick but like little black dress that, that little black dress that she wears has both straps and a back. It is not a strapless, backless little back dress. It is a strapped back to little rock dress.

Well
, maybe he was singing about a different dress that he wore when he was a young, what's the German?

Maybe
?

Maybe
he was reminiscent and then he Janet had a different little black.

Still
an interesting choice. I love the rest of the costumes. Faith Factory. They do some really interesting choices. They, they switch them to white just like in the film. That's great. But they kind of go at least with Janet for this like pleather look which I don't dislike, but it kind of just makes her look like she went to Spirit of Halloween and picked out a nurse's outfit. She did.

Yeah
.

Uh
Yeah, I mean, there's some fantastic performances in here. The guy playing Ralph is just, I was not on Team Ralph at the start of the show. By the end of it, I loved what he did with this character. He's kind of channeling like this really early Jim Carrey kind of vibe. He does all of the like crazy Jim Carrey facial expressions and mannerisms. I some of the reviews noticed this and specifically called this out that he reminded them of that. I mean, I'm pretty sure I even caught him mouthing and like an alrighty then at some point. So that might just be me thinking what I want to see, but like he really sold it. I was really impressed by his performance. How many times have you watched this? Three? It might be four. It might, it might be, I I did watch it twice while I was writing the script just in pieces. So it might be five. I mean, well, Chat G BT was writing the script. It might be five times now, actually, um

11
thing I wanted to say, uh we mentioned, we mentioned Mad Man watched this three times live and Jesus Christ, this thing only ran for like 2.5 months if that. Um oh my God. What, what incredible like fortune to I, I mean, I I don't think anyone foresaw or was thinking about, oh, well, this is only gonna be running for 2.5 months. I better see it as many times as I can. Right. No one knows the fate of a theatrical production, um, until it's over and, like, the, the, the fortune of like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna see this three times and then it closes in 2.5 months. Like, Mad man might be the person outside of the cast and, you know, producers or anyone like, involved to have seen this the most like that is, that's awesome. Yeah,

I
mean, it makes sense. He's the president of the Shock Treatment fan club. But yeah, absolutely. He did a bunch of interviews. Uh right when this was coming out with the creative team that was behind it. Some of those are still posted up on Facebook, you gotta scroll back to 2015. Uh but on the Shock Treatment fan club page, uh there's some really great interviews with uh Tom Crowley and some of the other folks behind it and it really exposes a lot of, a lot of the interesting kind of stuff that they went through. Fun fact, uh the guy who wrote the book, not familiar with Rocky Horror or the source material really at all before they brought him on to do it. So he really did a, a job that throws back well and resonates with Rocky people and the kinds of things they want to see out of it without having been a hardcore fan himself.

That's
something. Yeah,

I
, I was kind of blown away and, like, I, I won't lie. I've listened to the bootleg sound recordings of this show several times. There's a couple of them out there. Um, they're pretty hard to find but, you know, um, they do not do it justice. They absolutely do not. You, you, you have a picture in your head when you listen to those and it's so tainted by what, you know, from the film that when you actually watch what they put on stage, it's, it's, it's mind blowing, it's completely different. And yeah, like you were saying, Jake, if they had no idea whether this was going to go on or not, there was definitely talks uh as the, the run was coming to a close that oh maybe they'd bring it somewhere else or any of these kind of things. Well, you know, we're eight years later, we know that didn't happen. Uh It's never been and honestly, it probably won't be, I mean, somebody would have to really love shock treatment and throw a ton of money at a state show to put this thing on again, let alone being able to get the rights because you got to go back to Richard o'brien and Richard Hartley just to get the rights for this fucking thing.

Oh
my God. How many episodes we've done about how difficult it is to procure the rights? I think just for Rocky Horror, I can't imagine the trauma it is to procure the rights for shock treatment.

I
bet Shocky is less. I bet Shocky is less crazy. I

mean
, who knows? Because, I mean, they, they were very interested when, when uh the creative team came to them with this and like they wanted oversight over it. And Tom Crowley mentions in one of his interviews that like, it didn't cross his mind until he was almost done with the script that like, oh, shit, Richard o'brien is gonna read what I did to this and he's gonna see it and he's gonna have opinions. Uh So it's pretty fun. Um It turned out really good though, like, you know, it's not, it's not a crazy big budget West End musical or anything like that. This was at the king said um hilariously where Rocky first premiered, it's in the same theater that Rocky Horror premiered in, in 1973. Uh Super fucking cool. And I'm sure that that alone was an experience for all of the Rocky Horror fans that got to go see it. Um But it really interesting, really, really interesting. I'm just, I'm just completely pumped that this is out there now. And with that, I think it's about time that we chatted up about some big con updates. A lot of

New
Jersey con organizers F N S dropped a whole bucket of information this last week and opened up registration for all the con activities you would expect.

Naked
alien foam

pit
and that one's not on the list.

Cat's
Butt Hole Orgy.

I
don't think you sign up for that in advance.

Maybe
you don't.

But
you can now sign up for the Rocky Horror Talent show. Register vendor tables, submit live and video preshow and submit for ad slots in the program.

You're
kind of burying the lead. There.

Also
auditions are now open for Rocky Shocky, Mama Mia and the big reveal. Repo the Genetic Opera.

All
right, we're doing repo. Cool, cool, cool, cool. So if you want in on any of those shows, all auditions require videos. So get those film director hats on and submit your very best F N S says they can be creative, they can be show footage, whatever you want. Just got to make a video and get it on over to them

and
if you still haven't gotten your ticket, probably best to do that soon. Prices go up. June 1st.

The
deadline is June 26th for all the big stuff, Rocky Shocky Rio, Mama Mia, the talent show and video and live. Preshow. Get your shit together. Casts. Don't be a New York City cast and do fuck all for your con. Preshow meg. Hey, are we doing a preshow? I don't know. Yeah. Uh-huh, I don't fucking, that's what I thought I have to do everything on by myself. Fucking stupid fucking advertising deadline for the program is July 8th. I'm not sure about the vendor deadline but space is always limited at every convention best. Get that in sooner rather than later. So come on, Aaron you in for some mama.

I
think I will sit that one out but oh my God, I am sure shit excited to see it like I don't know what the fuck that's gonna look like, but I am here for it. Let's do it. Come on, so get

on
it, guys, get those submissions in. That means you go to N J Rocky con dot com and do it

in
wider community news. We want to give a quick shout out to the heavy petting cast out in Tucson Arizona for their recent production of Clue.

Now
there's a shadow cast. We can all get behind. What do you think, Jacob? Who would you play in? Clue?

Uh
Man, I don't remember the names of all of them and like or the actors or anything but the lady who was dressed in all black. I feel like they all had a very dry sense of humor but she was like,

come
on.

Yes
, exactly. I would, I would love to be that character. Oh my God,

dibs
. I feel like you are that fucking dibs on your vet like you know what you want to see me in a dress. Do clue. I, I will be the sexy French maid. Let's go.

All
right. I want to see, I want to see Aaron as a holy shit. We've got to do this now mag, if Aaron's willing to dress up like

that
,

it
would be so ridiculous. I think it would be hilarious to do like a drag Yvette as like this. Like, what would you do, sweetie? What, who, who is your clue? Clue? Uh uh Petroni,

my
clue. Petroni probably Wadsworth because he fucking runs around the house all the time like a chicken without a head.

Yeah
, I could see you just running around like an angry, angry little butler.

Can
I be Mr Body? You want

to
be dead in the first act and just hauled around for the rest of the show?

Oh
my God. How fun would that be? You just do like dead work the whole time. Make everybody hate you and you get to be the biggest dick,

but
he was actually the butler. I don't know. It depends which ending you think is the real one. I love it. I love it.

Yeah
. That's awesome. That would be so much fun to shadow cast and so much work so good on you. Heavy petting for putting all that together. That sounds like a lot of coordination and I'm sure it was really awesome to watch.

Yeah
. Big congrats to everybody over at heavy petting and all the way over here on the East coast. Buffalo. That's right. Our friends at the Francis Bacon experiment have announced a September 9th shadow cast of the room. You heard me right? The room in its spoon flinging glory is coming to Buffalo. So yeah, get your tickets for that soon. I'm sure like all of their shows. It's gonna sell out so fast.

And
last up, we've got a fun new costuming resource for everyone out there. Rocky costume wizard Dave Rogers with the rich weirdos cast down in Florida recently published a new blog with a wealth of fantastic costuming content. Yeah, Dave's

been
super active in the Rocky Costuming group and has been experimenting with a lot of details that haven't really been focused on before. Now, you might ask me, what do you mean? We've been doing Rocky costume for 40 years. What I'm talking about things like the paisley print for Frank's dinner corset replicating the pattern that's on Frank's garter belt, the patterning that's on Brad's wedding dress shirt. They also threw up vectors of the butterflies on Brad's robe. Like the list just goes on and on.

This
is some nerd level shit. I will proudly say I had no idea. Brad's dress shirt has a pattern on

it
. We all know you didn't know that.

Hey
,

one
of my favorites is all the costume Quick Sheets. It's really great illustrations for many of the characters and the Transylvanian. There's also a lot of posts documenting the building of many of the major costume pieces, including patterns and tons of really great high res photos.

Yeah
, absolutely. Everybody should go check it out book market. It's at Doctor Rocky blog dot wordpress dot com.

All
right. That sounds pretty cool. I've always wanted to put together a Christopher Biggins costume. Why? Because I'll put on anything to be big and D's nuts boom catchphrase.

You
know, I like chat GP T S catchphrase better.

Yeah
, Jacob. Are you a virgin? Because I've got a little something to show you in the back of my car.

Um
Mom pick me up. I'm scared

and
that I think is all the nudes fit to print. As always,

we
would love to thank our editor Aaron from Tennessee for all of his work, dude. We appreciate the shit out of you.

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talk to you next week. Bye bye.

Also
full disclaimer for any of you out there who are wondering yes, chat GP T did write that introduction. It did not write anything else in this script.

And
also, you know, everything I say is heavily um monitored and construed before I say it. So I am using chat GP T to speak audience and have been since episode one. If you haven't picked up on that, you're a fucking moron the

way
you talk, I would have thought it was like a speaking spell.

What
, what

is
that? Goddamn it? Fucking miss the miss the mark by like a decade and a half. It's a children's toy from the eighties

that
like it, it told you what to say.

You
, you'd put little cards in it and be like, it would show you a cat and you'd have to, it would say cat and you'd push the letters for cat, you'd go like c they'd be like, yeah, you fucking shit.

So
what you're saying is if I try hard enough and I make enough of my own cards, I can, I can make the voice box for a slutty blow up doll, that's what you're saying. Absolutely.

Million
percent. Uh-huh.

Yeah
, I, I believe in the dream. All right. Right. So before we move on, I just, I'm like infuriated by this chat G BT creation as, as many of us, I'm sure know Chat GP T does not allow illicit material to be created by itself. But there are like, uh you know, freelancer, like individual developers who have grouped together to make, like, mimic programs. Like, not as good as Chat GP T but, uh, I think there, there's one that's really good for like, creating D and D scenarios. I forget the name of it, but there's, there are a bunch of them made and I've been trying, but I, I have like this one really good erotica that I've been reading for like, months. It's my favorite right now and I've been trying to get one of these programs to like make extra content from the original and Jesus Christ, they're terrible. It, it maybe I'll get one sentence. That kind of makes sense. But the rest of it like literally just doesn't make sense in context of the rest of the material. And this, this is like, God, we, we read that and I feel like we could have read that as a regular episode and, and you listeners would have been like, yeah, checks out. Uh It's just man, one day our fucking technology will catch up with porn or porn will catch up with our technology, one or the other and I'll get to Jack off in peace and that'll be a good day.

OK
. First of all, I would like to say that porn tends to be like pretty cutting edge and like leading in the tech industries. So I, I'm certain we've got our best people working on this. Like, honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if most of the porn scripts that exist were already written by bots and we just didn't fucking know. And also you're a programmer, you do computer things. Why don't you make the porn porn G BT?

I
cannot make, I, I'm a programmer. I am not fucking porn GP. T, I don't know if fucking Aaron is even porn GP T level programming. Aaron could you make porn G

BT
? Got to read it and make it just a lot of eroticas.

Uh
I mean, I could probably figure out the, the problem with all of these is the training data, right? You need so much pornography to train. Uh, I mean, you know what? This does sound like something I might be qualified to do. Never mind. Um,

I
got

you
. OK. So here's a funny story. This, this joke that, uh, that Jacob does, I'll put on anything to be Biggins. D's nuts. So I asked chat GP T to write me a, uh, subversive pun using a character named Biggins. That was the only thing I could get it to do because I, when I asked it to be like, write me a dirty joke with Christopher Biggins. It was like, I can't do that. That's a real name. I can't write you a dirty joke with a real name, but it, it would. Yeah, but then I was like, OK, fine, write me a subversive joke, da da da da. And it came back with like, I'll wear anything that makes me look Biggins or something like that. And I was like, ok, that's enough. I, I see where we're going with that chat BT. I can, I can just add the word D's nuts at the end and it's funny. So, chat CPD gets half credit on that joke. But

thank
you halfway chat,

chat
GB, like, wasn't willing to deface a public figure. Is that, that's the whole thing.

Yeah
. And it wouldn't let, it refused to use a real person's name and it refused to write a sexy joke. It refused to write a subversive joke. I had to phrase it a very specific way.

I
, yeah, I, why is this weird? Did Chat G BT write this line? Chat

GP
, t, didn't write any of this?

Well
, maybe it should have,

why
don't you put a preshow together, Jacob?

I'm
not, I don't uh I have so much in comparison to you that, you know my, I, oh God damn, I'm tripping over my words.

You
so much in the side of my face.

You
have so much more knowledge in the preshow and rocky area. You've got so much more experience and you have so many more connections to like past leadership of cast. You are the person to create a preshow if it's gonna be any buddy, I've, I've only been to one con ever. So, you know, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I've
never put a preshow together.

You
neither have I, I, I don't,

and
I will not admit to having ever put a preshow together in fear. I might be asked to do it again.

Our
doorman's name is Mark.

Oh
, hi,

Mark
. So every time I walk into my building I go, oh, hi, Mark. And he doesn't get it, but I do. And I feel dirty. Please carry that energy with you as you rehearse for the room guys. Oh, right.

I'm
gonna have, I'm gonna steal. Are you a virgin? Because I've got to let somebody in the back of my car. That's, that's really

good
. It's actually chat actually wrote you a new catchphrase.

Yeah
, that's fuck, man,

guys
. We gotta wait

for
him. Ok? 10 9,

we'll
just leave it in an hour, hour and a half of dead, dead

dead
.

It's
a 42 minute 27 long video. So I'll count from 0 to 60 once and then me and then Aaron will do it and then we'll repeat that uh about 15 times and that'll be about 45

minutes
and then that's only the first half though. There's a second video. Oh

my
God. Yeah. Oh yeah, we'll loop us counting the 60 45 times twice. So that yeah.

Ok
. Jacob you

start
. Ok. 1234. I thought I'm going too fast. This is, I got to do seconds. One Mississippi, two, Mississippi. All right. So,

so
there's a beat in there. I don't know how you want to make that a beat, but good luck. So.