Hello to all of you, unconventional conventions out there. Oh, welcome to Rocky Talkie. It's a podcast about anything and everything. Rocky Horror. I'm Aaron, I'm John and my cock is out and this week we are joined on air by one of our fellow N Y C R H P S cast members. Keely Haggerty was not much, very excited to be here. That makes one of us now, Kelly, obviously, everyone here knows you extremely well, but for the listeners who may not have had the pleasure of meeting you yet. Could you tell them a little bit about yourself? Yeah, I mean, hi, I'm Keely. Um I've been on cast for about a little over a year now. Um I play Frank Magenta Janet. I've done Colombian Rocky like once or twice. Um Other than Rocky, I love drag and dancing. Um I'm currently studying stage management and theatrical directing. Um I'm a cat mom to biscuit. He's my little baby. Having a gay old time. Wow, you are so interesting. Thanks. Oh, amazing, Kelly. Thank you so much for joining us today. We are excited as hell to have you on the show, or at least I am John. I won't speak for him. So before we dive into all of this rocky talk we got today uh we do the thing we want to know and ask each other how you been, what have you been up to? How was your week? Did you do anything fun, John, what have you been up to? Uh I've been doing a lot of work. That doesn't sound fun. No, not at all. It's actually been a, a pretty hectic couple of past weeks for me. So I found out I'm gonna be candid with, with you and Keely and all of our listeners. I am being removed from my position at my job in June. Uh, they are not reappointing me, they are not renewing my contract. Uh So I've been on the hunt. I just recently got off of an interview on Tuesday. We're recording this on a Thursday. So that went really, really, really well. I don't get to know for a couple of weeks though because I was their first interview and they are interviewing for a bunch of other weeks. So I probably won't know until like the end of April, maybe even early May one way or the other, but it seemed like it went really well. So I'm excited I've been seeing a lot of theater recently. Uh I recently went to go see Camelot at Lincoln Center, which was fantastic. Uh I went to go see the New Candor and Ebb and Miranda at this point, musical New York, New York, which was incredible. I've seen Fat Ham twice in the past couple of weeks. This coming Sunday. I'm seeing Aaron Taves closing in Moulin Rouge. Uh, I'm very sad. Clearly. So I'm trying to dull the sad by spending a lot of money going to see theater. So that's kind of where I'm at right now. So work is slow and sad. But theater is alive and bumping. Very nice. Yeah, I mean, I've, I've been up to uh a lot of theaters as well. Uh Megan, I went and saw the opening night of Bad Cinderella. Oh God, I want to. It. Uh It's right there in the title. It tells you everything you need to know about Andrew Floyd Webber's newest hit musical. Uh No, it was fun. It was absolutely fucking fun. The costumes are insane. The lighting's crazy. The dancing's absurd. Like if you go into it wanting to just see, you know, a fun Broadway show, that's a definitely a show for you. Like it's, it's super fun. Um I don't think it's going to be up there, you know, as, as the pinnacle of his catalog, but uh it's worth, it's worth taking a look at. So that was super fun. Keely. How about you? What have you been up to? Um I've been in the midst of moving. So that's been fun and stressful. Yeah, I moved from the East Village up to the heights. So John and I are neighbors Kelly and I are gonna have to be best friends now. I'm so sorry. But for, for me or for Keely. Yes. Cool. Other than that I've just been getting through, we're about to hit Tech week for my school show. We're doing check offs. Uncle. I'm a horror for check off. Um but yeah, that's been it. Well, from one whore to another, I think that's a great segue. Let's kick it on over into some global news. OK, guys. So first up in global news, we're gonna start off with some really hard hitting journalism that is both utterly mind blowing and ultra relevant to the Rocky horror community. In fact, I think that this honestly might be the most fascinating set of stories we have ever covered on this show. So take it away, Keely. Wait, what? Uh-huh? Utterly mind blowing and ultra relevant and super duper fascinating. Come on, go on, go on, go on. Is this the one on, on page two of the script, the meat loaf thing? Yeah. Go ahead, Keely. Uh OK. Um I don't know what John's talking about. This headline says guy is good at karaoke and it's just a video of some guy looks like he's from New Jersey singing a meatloaf song in an obnoxiously well lit restaurant. Uh Yeah, but did you listen to the song? No guys. Does this really count as news? I don't know, Keely are you accusing such highly esteemed and reputable news sources such as Yahoo, MS N MS N Canada, as well as three separate news radio programs including, but not limited to Boston Rocks 92.9, Dave and Chuck The Freak morning show airing weekdays from 5 30 to 10 30 AM. Are you saying that they have disseminated puff pieces to their audience? Yeah, Keely, do you think Dave and Chuck The Freak would air a softball story. They know their listeners only want the hardest firmest veinous news shoved into their ear holes. Just like our listeners. She came, I think a study came out this week reporting that on average Americans consume one credit card's worth of microplastics every year and are drinking water. And Chuck The freak is using his daily four hour media program to inform Bostonians that a guy sang a song real good at an Applebee's in Denville, New Jersey. Yeah. But Kelly, did you listen to the song? No. But I bet our listeners haven't either. Let's listen together. There's something. Ah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, so I would, damn, he really does sound a lot like meat loaf. I get him. Ok. This is actually pretty big news. Yeah. Especially if you're ever in the market for a meat loaf impersonator to perform at your kid's next birthday party. What, what? Well, congrats to the guy who sang the meat loaf song. So, so good. You, you, you really, you meed it up, buddy. If anyone who's listening to this would like to be, meet it up. You can email me at Hi John, I dad at gmail dot com. All right. Daddies. While we're on the subject. I feel like I've done quite a bit of karaoke since I've been involved with Rocky. But none of y'all ever want to sing Rocky songs. All right. Well, first off, I never want to sing any songs at karaoke. When we do our wicked lady, the show is over and I leave and that's, that's, that's it. That's the t no, that's like the best part of the night. John. No, it's the most uncomfortable part of the night because the people that we fucking weird anyway, uh I didn't see that the views of Rocky talkie do in no way represent the views of the New York City Rocky horror picture show cast, especially things John says. Ok, ok. So if you had to pick one song from the movie, what would it be like to do a karaoke? Um Probably science fiction double feature, sort of good answers. Those aren't like the biggest, most hop in numbers to do out of car. Like I feel like like sweet tea or hoe are like the most like karaoke songs. But um for me, my voice sits the best with either sort of damn or a science fiction double feature. I could rock once in a while, but I don't want to put the bar to sleep. That's fair. Yeah, I, I do not, I do not sing. I especially do not sing at karaoke. Um, I don't want anybody to be inflicted with that. Uh, does shock treatment count? Can I pick a shock treatment song? No shock treatment never counts. Rocky. And Jason is good too. But, like, come on. What about Rocky? Ok. Um, I guess if I had to pick a Rocky song, it's, it's, it's probably Hot. Patuti. It's probably the only one I can stumble my way through. Um I mean, not, well, certainly not. Well, nobody would want to hear this. I don't, I, I don't think it would be fun. Um If, if, if, if I can go outside of Rocky, like looking at an ace would probably be really cool bitching in the kitchen I think is one that like, I think would be funny and I would know plus it's a duet. So like, I don't have to be the only one up there. So I think that one's pretty good. Oh, Aaron, are you telling me that you want to do it bitching in the kitchen with me at uh our wicked lady next time? Boy, I sure don't John. Oh, ok. But it'll be your birthday. Oh God. Yeah. Happy birthday. You doing the thing you fucking hate? What about, what about you, Kelly? What, what I mean? You actually sang and you like to sing. So like what's your go to karaoke. Rocky song. Um, I mean, I haven't really done Rocky at karaoke before. I, I think if I had to pick one for shits and giggles, it would probably be, I think would be fun to do just because like that sits pretty well in my range. Like Columbia and Eddie are kind of in my sweet spot. Um, I feel like if, if someone got me drunk enough, maybe I'd do Eddie. Nice. All right. Note to self free shots for Keely. Do the Doctor Scott voice from the day he was born. That's always a phone run. Right. I, I, I never think of that one as like a real song. I don't know, Missy Missy from cast slays it every time. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's certainly the one you get to do the most with. Right. Like you just go crazy. Actually, it's almost spy. So maybe that is one that I'd be good at. Oh my God. Yes. Mission mission for next Cassidy's night. But yeah, John mentioned it earlier. Uh, we do a show at our wicked lady. It's a, a bar in Brooklyn rooftop bar. Really cool. And after the show, usually most of the cast except for John sticks around and, uh, does karaoke downstairs in the bar afterwards. It's super fun. Uh, it lets us engage with the audience a lot more. There's been so many times where just after the show usually, you know, you kick the audience out real quick and, like, nobody's there. But since we get to hang out there and talk to them, lots of people will come up and talk to us. They'll ask about joining cast. They'll ask about, oh, where else do you guys perform? So, it's just a great avenue to, like, keep the party going after Rocky. Especially because those are an earlier show. Like, we usually do a nine or a 10 pm start. I think I would feel more inclined to, like, stick around if they weren't on Mondays. Yeah, that's the other thing. That's a, that's a, that's a Monday night venue for us usually. So it's, it can go a little late, make, make that Tuesday morning, nine AM. Wake up call a little difficult. Yeah, usually the first day of school starts on a Tuesday and pretty much the start of every semester has been right after an our wicked lady show. So that's been fun to say the least. Well, we may not kill it as awesome as this guy does out in New Jersey. Uh, but, uh, you know, that's the first, uh, in our fabulous meat loaf roundup. So, while we're on the subject of our boy meat, he made another appearance in the news this week, which is amazing for a dead guy. And this time it comes from a much sexier source. That is right. Aaron America's heart throb Seth Rogan has finally spoken out about his controversial decision to include the right wing songster in his 2016 cinematic masterpiece sausage party. Now, we all know that everyone who's anyone has seen sausage party at least a handful of times. But for any of our listeners who may have been in a coma since before the movie came out and only just woke up today. The film chronicles the adventures of a ragtag gang of sentient foods as they learn about what happens to the groceries after they leave the supermarket and come to face to face with their own mortality. Think like Toy Story Three with way more sex and really dark. I would like Toy Story Three with a lot of sex. Um No, I think that's just called Toy Story. That's called Mama's Drawer Story. I guarantee you there. You know what I'm gonna look up, I'm gonna try and find it. Now. The main character is still named Woody. So you're good and buzz. Yeah. Actually it tracks Toy Story parody porn videos on porn hub. Let's see. It's a good thing. A bunch of people in cosplay. Oh, there is one girl blowing somebody with a penny wise makeup on. There's a snake in my boot. No, girl, it's up your ass. Huh? Oh, no. Oh no, I can't close out a hub now. Anyway, I read that Seth Rogan is the sexy, sexy brains inside the sexy, sexy body that is behind the creation of this instant classic. But even in spite of his awesome genius, Seth still ran into some difficulty while producing the film, particularly when it came to his decision to include the power ballad. I would do anything for love, presumably because get this Meatloaf's name is actually a food. Oh, yeah. So like it fits in with like the theme of like decent groceries. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Right. Uh Seth's whole idea was to feature a singing meat loaf performing the song during like a montage moment. But there was one hiccup. Seth Rogan needed to get meatloaf's approval. So in the article, Seth recounted to reporters his decision to just like call the musician, explain the situation and hope for a sign off. He was sent me's phone number around 2 30 in the afternoon. That's west coast time because Seth lives in sunny California and he states I called him the phone's ringing and ringing. I call like 10 times because I'm supposed to call it. And finally Meatloaf answers. He's like, huh? What? Huh? I'm like meat loaf. It's Seth Rogan. He goes, you woke me up from a nap. I'm like bad start. So at this point in the conversation, Meatloaf insists that Seth referred to him as meat, which Seth recounts as weird. He continues. So I explained, look, Meat, I have this film called Sausage Party and then it Food talks and there's a scene where we're using one of your songs. We thought it would be funny if we cut to a meat loaf singing the song is your name is meat loaf. The food meat loaf is also called meat loaf. Same meat loaf again. Meat loaf, meat loaf, meat loaf. So there was like 30 seconds of silence and then meatloaf just goes. Yeah, I get it. And then he hung up Hollywood Showbiz baby. Uh and that Children is the story of how Seth Rogen overcame the elder millennials, two greatest weaknesses, phone calls and afternoon naps and triumphed by perfected the cellular marvel. That is sausage Party. Great. Just for reference, Meg wrote this and she really likes sausage party and Seth Rogan. I mean, that's fair. I love Seth Rogan. I agree with all these. Yeah, I wouldn't say Sausage Party is one of his, his, his finer works but I mean, not even close, but like, have you ever seen Zakiya Pono? Like that movie? That movie is good. Ok. The fable though he ate and left. No crumbs. I've not seen that one. I guess it did not win any awards this year and I'm not trying to get into an Oscars debate, but I was just like, realistically, I think I actually had a really good chance if it did not come out the year of everything ever. Well, at once, you know. Yeah, like I just, uh like Tony Kushner and Steven Spielberg. Like, I don't know, such a good little team. I like a little duo we weren't asking for but didn't know we needed. And Seth Rogan screwed over by a movie with dildos yet again again. Damn, it, it's his weakness. Yeah. No, not the dildos. I'm allergic to latex. Well, on that note and next up in totally not just meat loaf news, we turn from a sausage party to a night of Dicks. A performance of the meatloaf musical. Bad out of hell in London's West End was halted for several minutes during one of its final performances due to a disruptive audience member, one audience member reported that quote, it got a bit heated and that swearing could be heard in the audience over the music. Apparently an argument erupted after several people had been singing along with the actors, the show came to a stop, the house lights were brought up and the cast left the stage as security staff dealt with the incident and other audience members chanted out, out, out now, obviously bad out of hell. Isn't Rocky horror. So lots of rambunctious audience behavior isn't the norm. I think the worst audience behavior I've ever seen at Rocky. I don't know if this is like bad audience behavior, but I feel like whenever people get up before sweet tea because we have like one aisle in our theater. So when I do frank and people are like getting up to go to the bathroom right before sweet tea. It makes me so antsy because I'm like, oh God, am I going to strut backwards into someone? And one time this girl was like, slosh out of her mind like she had great boots on and I remember her getting up and I was like, I'm anxious but love the boots. But then she was stumbling and one of our castmates like helped her out to the bathroom, she got a car home. She was all good. But like that was, I think one of the weirdest audience moments I've endured in my time here. God, there's been so many bad audience members at that time. Like Right. Yeah, I think I, the one that comes to my most recent memory was a show that I actually wasn't even there for, but I had just heard about it. We were doing a show at this hotel in the Meatpacking District called The Standard oh God. And lock this show out. And after like the first show that we ever did there, they kind of like reevaluated how we were performing. So we kind of kind of performed. This was like, there's no stage area. It's just kind of like you just mindlessly meander through the tables and it was a show there. It was like our fourth or fifth show ever there. But this one show particularly, we had a lot of new people on that night and we had like one or two seasoned vets and there was apparently like some famous youtuber that was at the show and him and his like group of friends were just like slashed out of their mind and they just kind of like, kept getting up and like pulling the attention off of the actors and putting it on them because like, he was famous and people were like, oh my God, there he is. And he kept like getting up and dancing, which is like fine in most theater. But in this area, it's a very like intimate arrangement where if somebody gets up, everyone sees them and he just kind of kept pulling a lot of the attention away from the cast members. And since a lot of them were new, they were all really like sad and upset that nobody was really paying attention to them. I, I remember somebody in his party that was dressed as rocky. This guy kept like trying to drink water. He was so drunk, but he kept spitting it all over the place. And then his friends were laughing at it so much that he started intentionally spitting it as other other friends, which seemed funny for like the first like 10 seconds of it. But then this girl that was dressed as Janet just he spat a whole like mouth full of water in her face and she fucking lost it at him. Like you saw him like running after her as she's going to the bathroom like trying to desperately drunkenly apologize. But like man, that was, oh that was, this was all during the show too. Yeah, we, they, everyone, it was, it's like a place that sees like what maybe like 60 65 people at most and, and this is all happening while like, fucking lab scene is going on and, and that's a good example of the, you know, the venue didn't really, like, care too much about like how slash the people were getting, right? Like it was, they were, they were just getting drunk and whatever our general movie theater shows, you don't see that kind of thing, right? Because our venue staff is pretty good about not letting people in the most that I ever have to do like at our regular shows is go like, remind somebody, you know, put away the lighter or like, hey, bro, maybe you shouldn't be standing directly in front of the lights hitting your Vape pen like chill out, man. Remember you're still in a public place? It's not your fucking living room. Like anyway, that incident at bad out of hell comes alongside a report from the UK Broadcasting Entertainment Communications and Theater Union. Um be for short, but Beck two reported that almost 90% of the 1500 surveyed theater staff experienced or witnessed problematic audience behavior. More than 70 believes that it had worsened since the COVID-19 pandemic. And just this week be to announced a Anything doesn't go campaign. Its goal was quote tackling antisocial behavior in UK theaters, one of their primary calls to action requiring venues to put better policies in place for throwing out assholes who get too fucked up and enforcing rules at the door. When people show up shit faced though, I will point out they said it in much nicer words. This, this honestly surprised me. I mean, I, and I, I don't know, maybe, maybe you guys can, can cue me in on this. Like I go to a lot of theater and I don't see a ton of horrible audience members now. I mean, I think that speaks a lot to the staff that has to deal with those audience members. And you know, when I kind of really think about it, 90% almost seems a bit low, like crappy audience members are just an eventuality of any kind of live performance. However, the goals that Batu is talking about here are more than reasonable and frankly common sense. So best of luck with their campaign still, we've all had to deal with those venues that would rather replace employees than turn away ticket holders. And speaking of stage shows and assholes that are disrupting people just going about their day. The 50th anniversary UK touring stage show performed an impromptu flash mob style performance of Time Warp at Birmingham's new Street rail station. The appearance was a promotion for the local stop on the tour playing in Birmingham throughout the weekend. So, you know, sometimes they do come to your job and sing at you. It, uh, it featured the entire core cast. Riff Magenta Columbia, Frank Brad and Janet along with eight undercover cast members singing, tapping and dancing in Birmingham's busiest city center. It is in fact a central hub of the British railway system. Judging by the massive gathered audience, they certainly must have disrupted a lot of commutes. Keely. That's nothing with, as of the time of this recording, nearly 1.5 million tiktok views. That's almost 75,000 hours. People have wasted watching time warp in a train station. All right. All right, we give them shit. But I mean, this is cute. I like it. I, they hauled out the entire primary cast, got them into costumes and makeup and I mean, they just shot a tonn of social media videos. There's one of Frank that's like just going shopping in the market. There's one of Brad and Janet taking some cute photo. I was in a photo booth and then another one that's got Riff Magenta and Frank that are just like slowly descending down an escalator towards a bewildered and unsuspecting. Brad and Janet. This isn't the first year that they've made Birmingham a viral promotion spot. Previously, they even dressed the city center's iconic bull statue as Columbia, which hilariously you can find the rates for online through the Hammerson Marketing Agency. You too can dress the Birmingham Bull for rates starting at £5000 for a fortnight, the UK stage show has stepped up their marketing game a lot. This year, there was a really fun video posted a few weeks ago titled backstage a day in the life of one of our backstage crew, Charlie Bennett. This shows a lot of behind the scenes. During the run of the stage show, cast members goofing off between scenes and general run of Show Antics. It was pretty entertaining. We will of course be linking all of those videos in our show notes. And uh last month, this iteration of the UK tour surpassed its 5/100 show during their run at the Edinburgh playhouse. So big congrats to the UK tour and uh here's to 500 more. And last up for us this week, Rocky made what will hopefully not be one of its last appearances in the most flat part of our country, Florida. That's because Republican lawmakers in Florida are currently trying to institute a flagrantly homophobic anti drag bill in an attempt to prevent people under the age of 18 from being in the same building as any sort of drag performance. It literally says that, I mean, it honestly would be better if it did at least, then we'd be able to understand what the fuck they're talking about in this fucking bill. Yeah. What the bill actually states is that establishments that's bars, restaurants, stores, et cetera will be subject to criminal penalties, fines and suspension of their operating licenses if they admit a child to an adult life performance. But I can hear you asking already what constitutes an adult life performance? Well, this bill defines it as any show in front of a live audience which depicts or simulates nudity, sexual content, sexual excitement, lewd content, or the lewd exposure of prosthetic or imitation genitals or breasts. In cases where the show is one of these things predominantly appeals to a prurient, shameful or morbid interest is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community of this state with respect to what is suitable material for the age of the child present and is without serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value for the age of the child. Hold on. What? Yeah, that all seems like really subjective. Like what exactly is a shameful or morbid interest who decides what constitutes serious artistic value and what the fuck is up with that middle one. If the show is offensive in a way that seems offensive to the state as a whole. There are places in Florida, throwing naked alien foam parties and there are places where idiots are voting, idiot, lawmakers like this into office. Shit. I can even tell you what people in the Bronx find offensive, let alone the people in Syracuse. How is anyone supposed to be able to measure that in any sort of certainty? Well, first off, nobody in the Bronx finds anything offensive, but they aren't, the bill is intentionally written so that when the Bible Belt Karen gets bored on a Sunday because hobby lobby and chick-fil-a are both closed. She can go sit outside the Barnes and Noble and call the cops on drag queen story time then because this bill is so vaguely worded, it'll be up to the courts to decide whether the establishment in question is in violation of the law. The problem with how vague this language is is that there are a lot of live shows that could potentially fall within the scope of the band that most people wouldn't blink an eye at, including you guessed it. Hair. The, the musical Hair, Greece, South Pacific, Mama Mia. Here I go again. Con time, all of those performances could fall under this wording. They all contained lewd conduct and simulated sexual excitement as well as plot lines of sex between teenagers outside of wedlock, between interracial couples and well hair. Uh You can make arguments that all of this is shameful and morbid depending on how tiny and pathetic your shriveled up little dick is. Exactly. In fact, one of the good guys made the exact point in court this week and used Rocky and Hair as their examples. Don't understand who makes the decision on what's considered lewd. I mean, I don't know if you've seen the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Um That's a movie but sometimes people, sometimes it's acted live at the same time, it's pretty aggressive. Um, some people would think it's art. Some people would think it's lewd. Ho how, how do you, who makes the decision? Senator Yarborough? Thank you, Senator Polski. That, that is a movie that you have mentioned. So we're talking about adult live performances. But if you're talking about, if that type of content was portrayed in a show or exhibition, like what we talk about in the bill, which would be a live performance, then if there was a complaint that was brought into DB Pr, then they would investigate. So, so he doesn't answer the question at all and he manages to completely miss the point altogether that Rocky isn't just a movie, right? What about hair? He doesn't have an answer because he doesn't need one. The law isn't about Rocky or Hair. Their local high school is still going to put on their annual production of grease and Bible belt killer and won't even bat an eye. In fact, she'll probably bring a salad made out of jello and canned fruit that she brought from her party potluck outside and probably paid for her daughter to play Sandy just saying Sandy, Sandy's nuts in your mouth. So, I mean, this, this bill is just one of several that have been popping up around the country recently, much like the one that we discussed the other day that had got brought up in Tennessee. The purpose of these bills is to prevent Children from being included in queer spaces because the earlier in life that you teach kids that there isn't anything morbid or shameful about self-expression. There's nothing shameful about drag or not being cisgender or hell, there's nothing shameful even about sex. The easier it will be for them to view all of those things as perfectly normal and the faster that happens, the faster that these lawmakers abhorrently, puritanical ideas will fucking die. Hold on before we go any further. I just want to point out that Aaron just said that there's nothing morbid or shameful about self-expression drag, not being sis or even sex. I'm going to disagree with you there because sex with me is morbid and shameful. Uh You see, but everyone consents to the shame. You see, that's the difference. People are, that's my, that's my kink. It's fucking 2023. And the fact that like we, we were like chill for like like a like a decade or two about this, right? And then all of a sudden they were like, it's time, it it's time to not be ok with the things that we have been ok with our entire life. Now, what really pisses me off about all these laws is that they, they don't come out and specify in the laws, what they're trying to do, right? And, and that's for a very intentional reason, right? If they were to put into this law that, you know, you can't be in a space that's got queer people in it, that would be struck down. Right. That is a law that would get struck down. But because they intentionally go with all this bullshit about, well, it's up to the moral values of the larger community. They're just teeing it up for a court case. They're teeing it up for a court case. If they don't get the result, they want, they can push it on to a higher court case and guess what the Conservatives have been doing to all of the courts, especially in the Bible belt. They're, they're packed, they're packed so that they don't have to write this frankly disgusting shit into laws and they can let their cronies further up the political landscape handle the actual like, oh well, we didn't mean that, you know that girl who was dressed as Jesus for the pageant uh applied to it just, just the queer boy who, who wants to do some fucking drag like absolutely disgusting. Fuck you Florida and fuck you every single lawmaker who has even touched this bill. I grew up in Tennessee and it's just heartbreaking to watch from far away because like the way they close these conversations off doesn't stop people from being curious and it doesn't stop people from like, you know, like, like I think I'm a chill example. Like I didn't learn a lot about sex. We didn't have great sex education. Um didn't have a lot of conversations about sexuality in school, didn't have a lot of conversations with my parents either and no matter what happens, whether you stay in those states, whether you move away, it's not gonna stop someone from finding out who they are or what they love to do. But I think hushing the conversation altogether does more harm than good. Absolutely. It's, it's meant to punish those people who don't have the resources to get out of their local community or, you know, any of these kind of things to, to marginalize them and, and that's fucked up, right? Like we don't allow marginalization in our laws for any other kind of minority group. Why in the fuck is this legal? Because they're not specifically doing it because, because they're doing, they're doing the underhanded tactics and I mean, you, I, I pulled up this news story and I read through it and I, I went to Meg and I said, sweetie, you've got a legal background, please read through this law and explain to me like, is this the way that this is supposed to, you know, that that laws are? And she, she just was so pissed off by the time she got through the first couple of paragraphs that like had to take a break and be like this is fucked, man. It's absolutely because we have so much media that actively frames viewpoints like this in a negative light, even something as like silly as like foot loose, right? The whole fucking point of foot loose is that you're not allowed to dance in this town. And obviously the whole idea there is you have this silly movie, this silly piece of media we're saying that you're not allowed to dance in this town, obviously, that doesn't actually exist, right? Like they're obviously dancing is not outlawed fucking places. But it's the whole idea that something as menial as something that just does not affect anybody is very clearly parodied in media like foot loose and it's so wild that lawmakers like this can sit there and watch foot loose and be like, yeah, Reverend Shaw is a piece of shit. He's dumb. He's stupid. Why would he outlaw dancing in his town and then turn around and be like, but gay people aren't allowed to be anywhere. And even like if they rewatch the movie by the end of the, the film, The pastor and the mother, like, you know, the daughter goes to the dance and re mccormick sets it all up and like, I don't know, at some point in the climax, like the town starts going crazy because they start like burning books and they're like, well, you know, you said this is sinful and that's sinful. So we think that this text is sinful and he realizes, yeah, like it's like, you know, if you let your old ideals take the back seat, like if you don't like drag, you don't have to do it. But if you know, don't stop someone else who wants to do it from doing it and, and the way that the, that they, they frame these right? This is the, I believe this one is defined as protecting Children, Bill something, something, something and, and the, the, the specifics of this are like, uh, uh a child meaning anyone under 18 can't see any of this stuff. So I guess that means that, you know, uh spring awakenings tour is gonna skip Florida. I guess that means that the, you know, Mama Mia, we mentioned earlier, right? There's drag and that like there's so many things that this really is just absurd to apply to, but you have to, right? When things are written into a law like this, it has to apply and it's why the lawmakers rightfully brought up Rocky Horror, you know, Rocky is in a theater, it's technically a R rated movie. So does that just mean that every single movie theater in one of these places is going to have to enforce that R rating? Well, of course, they will because otherwise they're opening themselves up to legal ramifications and furthermore, they have to enforce it in a way that you don't have to enforce for any other R rated movie, right? If I go to an R rated movie and I'm with my parent and I'm under 18, that's fine. I can get in. But this now makes that not ok. Uh, is as long as somebody is running around in the theater beforehand, what even constitutes a live performance is just somebody standing up there beforehand suddenly make it a live performance and then the content in the film applies. It's all this bullshit nebulousness that, that just makes it so difficult. And like, I, if, if I was running a cast down in Florida right now, you what, what are you supposed to do? Like you 18 plus, like there's no other choice here unless you want to test this fucking law in a courtroom. And I just feel like, like I'm not a parent, I am nowhere close to being a parent. I don't think I want to be a parent, however, like, especially in this time in this, in this economy. But like, I feel like, you know, there's a saying somewhere in the universe about like, don't tell people how to parent their kids unless they are being like, you know, physically abusive or like not, you know, feeding them or doing great. But like, I feel like, you know, if you want to take your kid to an R rated movie, like hell, there were so many times I was a kid and you know, I'd be like, oh can we please go see this horror movie? And my dad was like, all right, you know, he did the Google Search and was like, this is fine. You know, if you can't sleep, that's your fucking fault. You know, that's his choice don't tell people how to parent their kids because that's just bullshit. Well, in the State of Florida it's not bullshit. It's the law or, well, it's not the law yet. And I mean, if, if you are in Florida and these are one of your representatives obviously reach out to let them know that you do not support this horrible, horrible law. You know, there's the possibility it, it will not pass. But, uh, this seems to be the trend in a lot of uh conservative southern states and what a lot of the conservative movement is trying to do right now is uh make the uh make the conversation about these kind of non issues that are just stemming from hate and that's fucked up. So to anybody out there that's impacted by this, you know, we support you, we're with you, fuck them and uh yeah, keep on doing what you're doing. Just keep yourself safe out there. Fuck Florida. Yeah. Fuck Florida. You know, you know something's wrong when I'm rooting for Disney. Right. Right. Like with, with the whole like, you know, shady, the the creek, whatever the land dispute bullshit that was going on. Like I find myself rooting for Disney over the state of Florida and boy, I don't want to root for Disney man, like just let the alligators eat them. And uh yeah, it's all those casts down there. If you ever want to have a naked alien foam party. Uh we got plenty of spaces up here in New York. I'm just saying, come on up and party. So I think that does us for all of the news today. Uh I have a quick correction that I've got to throw out here. Uh So last week we had a fantastic uh discussion with Randy uh about uh ask a question for Nixon and all of the stuff I mentioned during that show that uh shock treatment was uh happening at the J C C P. Uh I, I missed spoke on, on some of that. So here's the correction J C C P has Reefer Madness coming up on April 22nd hasn't happened yet. So if uh you guys want to uh check that out over in Pittsburgh, uh I'm sure all those folks out there would love to have you at their Reefer Madness show Meg and I uh caught uh some J C C P shows a few years back. It was absolutely fantastic. Uh You will not want to miss it. They always put on a fantastic show. So absolutely. Go check that out. And with that, I think that's our show. We want to thank Keely for joining us. We love you and uh we'll see you all again soon. And as always, we would like to thank our editor Aaron from Tennessee. We appreciate you, buddy. You're doing great. If anybody's got a question, they'd like us to research for our, ask a question segment or some community news they'd like us to talk about or even just a cool story to share with the community. You know, it, we'd love to include it in our show. Just go to our website that's rocky talky podcast dot com and fill out the contact form to tell us all about it. 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