Hello to all of you. Unconventional convention is out there. Welcome to Rocky Talkie. It's the podcast about anything and everything. Rocky Horror. I'm Aaron, I'm Jacob and I'm Meg. All right guys, it's been a little bit since we've had a proper recording before we get started with the show. Let's do the thing. Let's take a moment. Let's ask each other how you've been, what you been up to Jacob? Let's recap the last couple of weeks. What have you been doing? Oh, boy. Um So a lot of what I've been doing has been work and working with computers. I just learned this called Rails, which is a, like a web app development framework and I'm learning javascript right now and that is wildly fun. Aaron, the amount of hours I would like to spend picking your brain about computer questions and zeros and ones I have are limitless, but you guys don't want to hear about that. It's stupid bullshit in the Rocky verse. What I've been doing a few weeks back, maybe even last weekend. It's time is just falling apart from me. It's hard to remember. Uh I got to perform with The Lovely Gretchen from F B E. That was really cool. I got to see Rob and Josh who are old friends of mine from F N S which is a New Jersey cast. That was really cool too. So uh Aaron Meg, what have you guys been up to? Oh boy, a billion things meg. You wanna start this story and I'll finish it up. Oh Shoot. OK. So last time we were on air altogether uh was right before Providence. Pride in the middle of June. So me and Aaron as well as some other people from our cast. Uh We had Michelle and Marty come with us up to Providence and we did their pride show together and we did the parade and it was a lot of fun. We were there for the whole weekend. We had a blast and also we got Coronavirus in the great uh R K O Corona virus pride pandemic uh where everybody got it. And it was great because we all just got sick and disgusting together. And it was a shared experience and really, I feel like it made us all bond and be a little closer together. We were fine. It sucked. Um It meant that we missed our own pride show, but hey, we got to celebrate in another state. So that was a good time. Um So we were off air for a few weeks because uh we were sick, but we bounced back and we got to interview to Sal. We got to chat with Sal Piro. We went over to his apartment with John and that was a fucking amazing. I feel like I can die now. It was just such a wonderful, wonderful experience. We really hope you guys liked the interview that we put out getting to meet him was really incredible. He's such a sweet guy. Yeah, it was so fucking cool to uh get to hang out and chat with Sal. Uh A K O was fucking awesome. I loved barely being able to stand on the back of that trailer jumping all over the place trying to, trying to keep my footing during the pride parade while just hundreds thousands of people were screaming at us and like it was so much fucking fun. I even, I even sewed some led lights into my brad for that special. It was super cool. I loved it. They immediately broke about two blocks into the parade. So that was uh very satisfying. Uh Got some super sweet photos with it though. And uh like I, I thank you to everybody up at R K O for just showing us such a great fucking weekend. Harley 13 Zephyr. Just everybody that uh and Roy, of course, that just fucking brought it out and brought the community together. That was so much fun. Fuck COVID. But yeah, so uh that, that was, that was, that was a great weekend. Um Right after we bounced back. From COVID. It was absolutely crazy. We, we had to rush to do our interview and then we had a, a huge, uh live show just last week over at uh caveat here in New York. And uh there was a little bit of scrambling around that one to fill in some holes. Uh You actually finally got to perform in one of our live shows. That was super cool. Oh, yeah, that was, um, that was a time. Oh, wow. You actually had to, had to do it. Got to, got to not have to. That's how we're framing that. Um No, it was fun. Um A couple of our performers again got COVID but uh it was OK, we, we filled it, everybody sort of picked up the slack. Uh I covered Riff raff so that was great. I like to think I was very creepy. I think I, I did the creepy thing pretty well. It was fun. It was fun to be on stage for one of those. Absolutely. So, yeah, we had a great time. Uh It's just been so busy with so much rocky stuff and boy, is there a lot of rocky stuff left to come throughout the rest of the month and into August. So, oh boy. Um I've, I've got one more thing I forgot to mention. Oh, absolutely. You guys mentioned going to pride up in Buffalo and, oh my God, I got to do pride here. Which first of all. Um our lovely theater, the Village East. Um We got to use a absolutely gorgeous theater. Um made me think of Phantom of the Opera. It was just so large and beautiful, which was great. But the real fun is at our Pride Parade. We had a cast member. He has a gap in his knowledge where certain facts about certain communities might be. Specifically, he doesn't know what poppers are because there was a man who had a sign that said free poppers at New York City pride. Which first of all, thank you, New York City. That there is just a dude giving out free fucking poppers. That's pretty cool in and of itself. But the real gag is Evan saw this and he was like, oh free poppers. That, that sounds fun. And he approached this man behind a steel barricade on the sidewalk and grabbed the tiny bottle of poppers from him and immediately went to take a giant swig of the entire bottle of poppers. The whole thing drank it right into his mouth. Oh, that's wow, that's awful. Oh Jesus. Yeah, it was um it was pretty awful. Evan uh spent the rest of the parade complaining of his mouth tasting and feeling like oil um as well as spitting up onto the uh the sidewalk, not vomiting. He wasn't in too bad disrepair, but there was a lot of spit thankfully, he is fine. As far as I know he went on to enjoy his nanny's daughter's wedding. A person whom he is very close to often, some mystical foreign country. So he had a good time despite the popper's intoxication. Oh, my. Ok. So, for any of you out there don't do drugs unless you know what they are. What did he think? It was just a shot? He thought it was a shot. Um, which I, I don't know how, because they are poppers and they come in like a special glass container. It wasn't as though the man handed him a tiny little shot glass in the street. He handed him like a medicated looking. But I guess they kind of look like like one hour energy shots, right? They're about that same size or five hour whatever. I, I don't do drama. What's in those? I don't do them. Um It's B 12. Well, all right, I'm more of a B 52 s kind of person. But like that one, I get a lot of this guy over here listening to music. Good guys. All right guys. Now that, that's out of the way. Let's dive on into our first segment. Global news. First up in global news. We here at Rocky Talk. You would like to congratulate Mr Richard o'bryan for being the 2022 recipient of Hamilton, New Zealand's Kiki Roa Medal. The Kira Kroo Medal is an award given out by the city of Hamilton to honor significant achievement of individuals who have been very successful in their chosen fields and who have made an outstanding contribution to the city as a whole. The city awarded this year's medal to Richard on July 7th in the most fitting place imaginable below a statue of himself dressed as riffraff. Of course, Mayor Paula Southgate stated that Hamilton is proud to honor a truly unique and creative person who created a worldwide phenomenon. She said, quote, there is very few Hamiltonian who have claimed that she went on to tell Richard that he is a creative icon champion of the arts and theater, a staunch ally for the creative sector and a relentless advocate for this city, enabling any one of its inhabitants to be creative and enjoy creativity. The entire city of Hamilton then kneeled down in a single file line and proceeded to each suck Richard's dick one right after the other. The process start to finish took roughly three days and in my opinion was not enough. They did not do that. Yes, they did. I have video. Yes, I do. If anyone likes video, you just have to send me a few dollars over cash app. It's in my Facebook and I promise in the replies you will see it's right there. The whole thing. 100% Jacob advocating wire fraud. No, it's not fraud. You just just send me the money and I will send you the products, not no fraud involved there and you're crazy. That's so funny. I say the same thing to men on Instagram when they slide into my D MS, we should, we should get together and do a joint thing. I think we could really rake it in me. Oh my God. I think we could, they did not suck his dick. OK? They did not suck his. If you wanna call r rafts, penis, Chlo or Gods stick or whatever, Aaron that's up to you. But you, we all know what we're saying. OK, I mean, oh I mean not actually, but they gave him an award about how great and Big Dickie he is underneath a statue of himself like they might as well have done my thing. Richard spoke to the press after the ceremony letting them know that his younger self would have been terribly happy with the honor. What does that even mean? Is his current self? Not terribly happy with the honor. He also stated that receiving the medal was quote, a generous gift that is as welcome as a loving kiss, Richard. What the fuck man did your publicist phone it in today as welcome as a loving kiss, right on my penis. Previous winners of the channel include a guy named Doctor John Gallagher who is a social philanthropist, a K a a rich guy with a lot of walking around money and a whole bunch of people who have done stuff with nature. John and Bunny Mortimer who planted a bunch of trees Beverly and Bruce Clarkson who are conservationists and Doctor Peter Sergel who made a park out of a landfill or, you know, something we're not here to talk about nature. This is Rocky Harr, I mean, yeah, Rick is clearly the most interesting of the past winners and the only winner to date whose contribution to the town has bequeathed the world with more people running around in their underwear. We here would like to extend a warm lover's kiss to Richard as a form of congratulations. See how great that feels, Richard, the medal couldn't have gone to a better or weirder guy. And we are also very grateful for the contributions that you've made to Hamilton. I mean, as well as the rest of the world. Congratulations Richard. Next up in global news, we feel that it is monumentally important to recognize a recent tiktok craze that hits a little close to home for our community. What we are indeed talking about the gentle minions trend started by an 18 year old Sydney resident, Bill Hurst. This trend involves young people getting dressed up in their finest formal attire, think prom wear and attending screenings of minions. Rise of Gro where they sit with their friends and scream silly shit at the screen while the movie plays. Uh That sounds adorably familiar why, why Susan Sarandon was in a DC movie? There's I mean, there's, there's several stage shows in, in, in the US that are going on, right now like I, I, I just have to scroll Chi and Chong up in smoke. Lou Adler did an interview about that Captain Invincible just released on Blu Ray. Minions. Rise of Gro could literally be the next rocky horror. It's happening we're watching in action. Yeah, Steve Carell is gonna be our Franken furter. Yeah. Oh my God. OK. Uh So Bill Hurst really does not have the same ring as Sapiro but, ok, Bill Hearst recently did an interview with the NBC news about starting this trend by dressing up with his 15 closest bros and going to a premiere screening of the movie God. Sounds dreadful. He stated that they were quote, just having fun, reliving their childhood nostalgia of seeing minions movies and had just attended their senior prom and had all their formal wear out and about already. Oh, fucking Children. He said it just kind of happened. He said that it was all meant in good fun. And he said that seeing the movie brought back nice memories of watching Despicable Me with his family as a kid. When the fuck did despicable me come out? Hold on. Despicable me 2010, 2010. This is it 12 years ago homie. But he's, he's entitled to his childhood being 12 years ago. I think, I think that checks out fucking hell. He was six. All right. All right. All right. All right. There have been a lot of fucking despicable me movies. Shit. Yeah. All right. The O G tiktok has since amassed nearly 37 million views. Universal pictures has taken notice. And on July 1st tweeted out to everyone showing up to minions and suits, we see you and we love you. However not everyone seems on board with this trend, theaters have been getting a nonzero number of complaints from moviegoers who are going to watch a traditional boring movie with no audience participation whatsoever, especially parents who bring their kids in the hopes of some quiet time. I would imagine theaters have been posting very, very funny and confusing if you don't know what's going on, signage explicitly denying entrance to the movie to people dressed in formal attire. Some have even gone so far as to turn away young people wearing collared polo shirts and jeans. Much to the chagrin of their baffled parents first. They came for the young hooligans in suits, seeing movies at the theater and I said nothing for they were not coming for me, but then, and you get the point and eventually, you know, eventually we're not gonna be able to get naked and course it's on stage guys and this is the first sign, right? That is pretty fucking extra. It doesn't sound like these kids are doing anything all that bad. They're just being dumb in a kid's movie. Well, I like that's the point of a kid's movie or any movie for that matter if you try hard enough. Yeah, I think the takeaway here is that Karen's gonna Karen. But the studios are on board and like the idea of A P Yeah. All right. Not to be the Karen in the room, but I'm all for this. If you're not ruining a perfectly good theatergoing experience for somebody else who just decided to buy matinee tickets for their nine year old to see fucking minions. Like, cool. Have a party dress up, pick the fucking late show, right? I mean, at least don't go there with, you know what, whatever it's fine. I'm pretty sure it's not that the studios are like really on board with audience participation. I'm pretty sure that they like the idea of free fucking marketing, right? This is way more eyes on their movie than they would ever get without tiktok. Fuck. We've just spent the last five minutes talking about this and we are probably the furthest away from the m target demographic that you could possibly get. So what I'm hearing is instead of sending these kids to like uh the children's matinee at one o'clock in the afternoon, we should set up like designated showings for them to attend in their formal wear. That's not at all what I'm saying. Why? Maybe some enterprising Rocky cast, I don't know, could like partner with minions, Rise of Crew and set up the sound of that, right? That would be like a thing. What if that was a thing we could make that a thing. It sounds like gorilla theater to me just, you know, figure out a time and a place and congregate your masses and yell and yell at that screen and get on the stage and act like Steve Carell. I don't know. It sounds very familiar. Aaron, I think. Be in support of this. Right. It doesn't just have to be Rocky for a A P, like any movie could be an A P movie. Yeah. How do you do a P to a movie you haven't seen however you want? Um I feel like every single movie I personally watch. I sit there and talk all the way through and make fun of it. I could do that in public too and I do. All right, I suppose. Well, if you're interested in checking out the adorable memes that has spawned from gentle minions. Rise of grew uh check out the hashtag gentle minions and feast your eyes. It's a good time. A lot of these Tik Toks are really fucking funny. Do you guys know of any other movies that involve people from the general public dressing up to attend? Is Rocky. It. No, I mean, right, every time there's a new Star Trek movie, you see a bunch of guys in costume at the door, right? The new Matrix movie had a ton of Matrix fans. I remember even when I was in high school and the second Matrix movie came out, people dressed up for that. Uh, Lord of the Rings. Right. You get tons of Lord of the Rings fans for every new one. Harry Potter fans. Like any of the big fandoms. I mean, that's kind of been the big change right in the last, you know, 25 years or so. Is that it's cool, or at least not too nerdy to dress up and go to the theater anymore. Like, I think it's kind of like ingrained into the fandom. It's ok to be obsessed with movies now. Or at least all these franchises like superhero movies, right? Pick a Marvel or a DC movie. You're gonna see somebody in line in costume on opening weekend when I was looking at this as I was writing the script, I found one that I absolutely didn't expect because like, obviously, you know, like Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter and all this. But, uh, the big Lebowski, apparently there are big Lebowski screenings throughout the country. We dress up as the dude in a bathrobe and bring like bowling balls and shit, which is hilarious because like, imagine bringing a bowling ball. But then also we bring our fucking suitcases. I did not think the big Lebowski was like a cult hit like that. Oh, yeah. Big. I mean, it's on, um, there's that, uh, documentary series Time Warp, uh, something or another. We'll throw it in the show notes. It, it came out, I don't know, maybe a year so ago. Big Lebowski is one of the big cult classics that's featured on there. I mean, it's why it got a sequel. There was even Big Lebowski Conventions sequel. Yeah. Yeah, I gotta watch that shit. I haven't seen it yet either. So, what if we got together and watched it? That sounds like the proper way to watch it. My surprise with this is that anyone who likes the Big Lebowski enough to want to do this, like to dress up and go to a screening would have like the, um, to dress up for a screening. What are you talking about? It's a brown bathrobe and a rocks glass. Like, I mean, big Lebowski fans already got a dirty bathrobe. Like that's fair. No, I, I can totally imagine sitting at home and watch the Big Lebowski and think. Oh, yeah, I wanna, I wanna watch, can do a theater and, and, and have a white Russian and, and sit back and just think about, yeah, man. Life and, but then, you know, doing that actually and getting the bathroom and walking to the theater and all the, it's, it's another thing to, to do it. The ones you gotta look out for are the ones that like to dress up as Jesus. He's a Peter ass. He's a Peter ass Donny. What is that? I hope so. Otherwise it's a really bad sentence. I don't, I don't think they call him a Peter. He he absolutely calls him a Peter ass. Hold on, Peter. I do not want to Google that big Lebowski Peter here where it is. No, no, I got you here. It is here, it is. Say Peter as you got me and with that, let's move on over to some community news. All right, guys this week in community news, we want to talk about all things. R K O K. Yeah, we've got a ton of convention announcements. They have dropped over the past week or two and seeing as we're less than a month out from k, we think it might be helpful for everyone to do a quick little recap about all the info. First up, we've got all kinds of casting announcements. We all waited, our breath was baited. We got our emails we sent in our confirmations and finally Castless went up on social media and we were all able to get the hype. I think official cast lists are up for just about everything now. Is that right? Yeah, we've got Rio Reefer Madness. Doctor Horrible Hedwig, Shocky and Rocky. All of them have been confirmed, announced, reposted it nonstop on every single social media platform known to man. Oh, shit. Who did you guys get? Oh uh Yeah. Uh I'm doing uh Jack for Reefer Madness. I'm doing almost everything in there except for uh the tango and, or g because Aaron doesn't want to dance. And then Megan, I got Betty and Ralph for Rocky. So the two things I put in for hell, yeah. Uh Mega also got Amber, right? For Rio. Hell, yeah. And May for, for madness, right? I forgot. May I get, I get a slap you in the face. Hell, yeah. And also on stage. What about you, Jacob? Who'd you get, um, a gentleman such as myself plays only one role at his first con the role of the drunk asshole We feel. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah, we usually do that too. But uh something about getting out of lockdown. I mean, we, we thought we might mix it up this year, mix it up a little bit, you know, and uh speaking of the pansexual Pennsylvania after a whole bunch of deliberation, a final decision was made by the K committee about health and safety precautions within the Khan. Something none of us have ever really have to pay much attention to at a convention before outside of like boring old STD prevention and shit like that. So this whole process has definitely been a bit of a learning curve for everyone. So, yeah, just real quick. Here's a brief rundown of all the rona prevention that's going to be going on at the Khan. Uh Number one is get fucking vaccinated. They can't make you. Uh but like do it, it'll keep you safe and it'll keep everyone around you safe. Number two on the list. Uh Super don't fucking come if you've got the big c well, the other one we don't want you. If you got a fucking tumor, you dumb bitch. No, you can. Uh Corona super don't fucking come if you've got Corona like make sure you test within 24 hours of leaving your house. And you know, if you're testing, take pictures to show people at registration, if they ask, they're gonna try to have rapid tests on site, but it would just suck balls if you got all the way there and then had to turn around and go home. Plus if you expose other people, you're gonna ruin their weekend too. So just don't fucking come. If you have Corona three, there are a whole bunch of events that will require testing prior to participation. If you want to be part of the room, Hedwig Repo doctor Horrible Reefer, Shocky Rocky drag race or the Rocky Fit Dance Club. You got to take a test that same day and just to clarify, participating in these things means basically anyone more involved than a race, audience member. If you're a performer, a tech, a makeup guy, someone bringing cocktails backstage, whatever. If you're around any of the performers in any capacity or you're a performer, you have to have proof of same day testing. And number four, the big one is masking. This was the one where the committee went back and forth a little bit, but it was ultimately decided that masking is going to be required in three main areas, the Hotel Ballroom, the vendor area and when traveling on buses provided by the con, you can obviously take it off when you're eating or drinking, but make sure you've got one in those places otherwise. And of course, don't be an asshole to people whose masking preferences aren't the same as yours. We've got people in our community who want to be extremely cautious and wear masks 100% of the time they're in public. And likewise, we've got people in the community who don't give a single fuck about wearing masks. The majority of us probably fall somewhere in the middle. But it is really important to keep in mind that one of the best parts about Khan is getting to meet Rocky people from all walks of life with different experiences to yours. Their choices, including whether they feel it necessary to wear a mask are gonna be largely based on those experiences and not based at all around a desire to upset you. So if you see someone wearing a mask everywhere all the time, leave them alone, let them live. If you see someone not wearing a mask in places where they aren't required to leave them alone, let them live. If you happen to clock someone with obvious COVID symptoms, you might want to let someone from the committee know politely and discreetly so that they can suss out the situation and make sure everyone's safe, but trust that their priority is our safety and they're gonna handle it in whatever manner they deem appro and remember COVID isn't the only thing that makes you cough and sneeze travel in general can wreak havoc on people's sinuses. All that recycled air coming to a different climate with different moisture levels in the air and different plants and shit. All that stuff can give you the sniffles. Hell, there are probably gonna be people at the con with regular colds who are gonna be sniffling away but who just don't have the rona just because someone coughs too many times doesn't mean they're going to be immediately escorted off the premises. So remember guys, I think the big takeaway here follow the rules and don't be an asshole to each other. That way we're all gonna get to party together as safely as we can. Yeah. So we are beyond excited that all of this stuff has been finalized and we cannot wait to see the rest of the announcements between now and August, which is only a couple weeks away. Holy shit. I gotta get costumes done. Oh my God. I know I have so much fucking shopping to do also can't wait to see the lineups for the talent show and the drag show. Those are my fucking favorites. And I'm so excited to see who's going to be performing for those. Oh my God. I cannot wait. I have been thinking about this con since I didn't go to the one back in 2019. And my body has been itching for this for so long. I bought my tickets so long ago. I am so excited to be there and to meet people and to do drugs and to, to sleep at six in the morning and wake up at four in the afternoon. You're gonna miss our con panel. If you wake up at four in the afternoon. That is a big party, Aaron, you're gonna rob a man of his party. Would you? You're on that con panel, you better wake up and you can I give you permission to weaken it. Bernie's me if you have to, but my body will be a slave to the jams and the rhythms and the alcohol and the crack coke in the mess of the weight of the night. You know, honestly, I'm on board for this. I think it'll make for an even stronger. I think so too. Well, I hate everything about that and speaking of hating, guess what? It's time for. Get it with. No. What's your topic then? Old man. I don't care what it is. We are not doing another fucking tits episode. Well, you're the first one in the episode to say tits. So I guess really shows where your mind is at. Have you looked at the numbers, Aaron that tits episode is doing the tits? If you pardon the pun, that's not a pun tits boys. Calm down, stop measuring your tools because we've got the biggest dick right here this week. We've got a write in from the ever so sexy and talented Brandon, Katrina Brandon, formerly of Colorado's elusive ingredient, Frank jacket expert extraordinaire and now who can be found in Vegas performing the occasional show with Frankie's favorite obsession. Sent us this dick measuring contest. And our listeners out there know that I am always down for a $5 foot long. So Brandon writes knack snack jacking it with Jacob bopping it with B paps or Big Dick storytime disguised as a question. Probably the latter. My question is, what is the world record for the largest showing of the Rocky Horror Picture Show? I was lucky enough to perform as Frank with Colorado's elusive ingredient on August 13th 2013 at a sold out Red Rocks Amphitheater show. The official count was 8081 tickets. However, when I mention this to others in the community, I'm often told that someone else has the record. If this is not a record, it's at least one of the largest showings of all time. Red Rocks Amphitheater is such an amazing venue that in 1999 after Pole Star magazine awarded Red Rocks the annual honor of best small outdoor venue for the 11th time. The magazine changed the name of the award to the Red Rocks Award and removed Red Rocks from the running. That's a lot of Rs in one go. Brandon goes on to tell us more details about this amazing event. But before we get into that, I want to pause for a moment. 8000 fucking people. That's absolutely nuts. Surely. That's got to be the biggest rocky show of all time. Right. I've seen bigger. Yeah, it's not about the size. It's about what you do with your audience at the size of the motion of the ocean. This is wrong. Have you ever seen a mosh pit with 10 people? It's sad. You just can't compete with a huge throbbing, pressing, en gorged swell of what was I saying? Flaccid audiences right? Today is all about size. Let's go. I'll be your size queen. I said what I said, who sing, right. So OK, right off the bat. Let's fact check here. Is this actually the biggest Rocky showing of all time? Um Maybe uh possibly, possibly that's a weak answer. I demand precision. I mean, it's hard, it is raising, um It's difficult to pin this stuff down, right? For the simple reason that most venues just don't really publish their numbers even for gigantic special events. Unless a reporter interviewed someone from the venue. The cast may not even know how to find out how many people showed up, like, especially for these big shows. But I will say this. It is certainly one of the largest shows that I've ever heard of. So how about some context? Let's run through some of the bigger shows that I'm aware of and maybe we'll get a sense of scale here. Fortunately, last week, we had the pleasure of interviewing Sal Piro. And since Brandon had already sent us this question, we took a second to ask Sal, what he recalled is the largest show ever. And here's what he had to say. Do you know what the largest ever showing of Rocky would be? Because Brandon asked about this and wrote to us about it? I think, I think it was the 15th anniversary. Yeah, I think we had a, it was a, it was on the Waiver League for that. They did in the South. That was at least 5000. Ok. Well, I hate to disagree with Sal. No, I don't. I'm a rabble rouser and that sounds like an amazing experience. Thousands of fans all going nuts. I imagine it might be the largest most engaged audience ever, but it ain't got nothing on Brandon's massive assemblage, uh assemblage. Hey, phrasing. Listen, I'm busting out the thesaurus for the word audience on this one. Deal with it. So, what's the biggest show we've ever done? Surely New York City has done a huge show before, right? Ok. I mean, if you wanna go way back, like way, way back, I think Rocky Con one is probably the closest to fitting this bill. Like we don't have exact numbers for this one, but it was originally scheduled to be at the palladium, which is a venue in New York that could hold 2100 guests. It was moved to club heat at the last minute. And I unfortunately, I can't find capacity numbers for that venue. It's closed down since. But reports from the fan scenes at the time say that the venue was very, very uncomfortably crowded. And then the Rocky Horror Halloween event was held at Roseland that same weekend, another venue in New York and that place has room for over 3000 guests. Contemporary reports also show that as being very, very well attended. So definitely some shows there that certainly had a couple 1000 people coming to see them. But I mean, that's, that's back in the seventies, right? Like I know recently we've had some bigger shows. Meg, didn't, didn't you do the show at Lincoln Center? Yeah. Um I wanna say it was back in late summer, early fall of 2015. Our cast did a show at um the Lincoln Center out of doors venue. Um And I've done a little tiny bit of Googling and I think that was around 3500 people. It was an outdoor venue. It was cool because it was a silent performance. So everyone had the audio for the movie playing in headphones that were distributed by the venue and there was a channel that allowed you to hear A P. So we had some performers backstage on a mic doing a P with like A, a God mic. So people would hear it in their ears as they watched the show. So it was silent if you took off your headset, but you could turn the A P on and off. Um, so that was pretty fucking big, but not 8000 big. That is like the, the coolest thing I have possibly heard about all. Anything in the rocky verse ever. A show where you have the ability to like, tune in to the A P line for the show you're watching and, or not Jesus Christ. That, that's amazing. Yeah, it was fun. That's right. You can flip between Frank and Furter in one year and the smooth, smooth stylings of Eric Garnet and the other IP. But yeah, like I said, there's no way that show even compares to the one at Red Rock. Are there any that might be a little closer to the Mark sweetie? You've done the Berlin Amphitheater show? That one's pretty big, right? I mean, it's not that big though. I think that the amphitheater in Berlin is like 1000 1500 people. And I mean, they usually sell that out, pretty packed. But, uh, it's, it's a good show, right? I mean, they put up a giant blow up screen at the bottom of it and like you're just in this amphitheater in the park, uh, in the middle of fucking Berlin and it's absolutely crazy, but, um, not quite on the scale that we're looking for here. I think we're only talking around 1000 or 1500 people. So again, it doesn't even come close to the numbers that Brandon's talking about with Red Rock from around the community. We've got a lot of similar stories. Brandon also asked this question to the shadow Casters, Facebook group and some of the answers were similar to what we've got here. Dave mckenzie recalled that Seattle's Neptune theater sold out their entire 1000 plus person theater for a grand reopening event in 2011, Caylin Dooley made mention of the rich weirdos out in Orlando Florida selling out a 900 plus capacity plaza live theater on multiple occasions. And keeping with the Sunshine State. Brittney Slaughter talked about a 1000 plus audience show held by the interchangeable parts down in Tampa, Florida. But if you want big shows, you've got to kick it West Coast style, a riverside live event in 2019 that featured cast from all over the Southern California Rocky horror scene, including sins of the flesh, midnight insanity, chaos, and T MC C clocked in at over 1500 audience members. Those are some absolutely packed shows. I know any of us out there in the community would be lucky to book something like that, but we can go bigger, right? How about a quick trip across the pond on Thursday, November 13th, 2014, a massive 40th anniversary celebration was held at Royal Albert Hall in London, Pat Quinn hosted an even original stage show and film producer Michael White was in attendance in the audience. The venue seats over 5000 and was packed to the rafters. Well, we're getting a little closer back across the Atlantic. I asked community legend and former New York cast director, Mad Man Mike, if he had any shows that stuck out in his mind, he mentioned a 2005 performance that was a collaboration of New York and New Jersey casts at the Brookhaven amphitheater out in Long Island. According to a home of happiness press release. This one clocked in at nearly 4000 guests though an accurate head count is difficult to determine as apparently ticketing was done by the car load. Madman even shared some photos of the event including one where I shit you not. He climbed to the top of some scaffolding over 30 ft above the audience just for Riffraff's entrance during there is a light. Oh man, I bet OSHA fucking loved that stunt, right? That does sound like mad man though. That sounds exactly like Mad Man. Another honorable mention has to go to the body cast who performed at Lawler Event Center in Reno Nevada. Ticketing for this one is estimated to have been between six and 8000 guests, but I haven't seen any concrete numbers floating around. Still a massively impressive feat. I've got one even more massive than that phrasing for the 30th anniversary there was an event held at the Hollywood Bowl out in Hollywood, California on September 5th, 2005, there were over 8000 fans in the audience. And the preshow featured glam rock band Louis the 14th, followed by the film Shadow Cast by midnight insanity. And if that wasn't crazy enough, the mistress of ceremonies for the whole event was Jane Wheeldon of the go gos. All right. Now, that's fucking crazy. I mean, the pictures from this event are absolutely insane. Just hordes and hordes of people. This must have been a sight to see. And I think that gets us the closest that we have to. Brandon's write in Brandon with an official ticket count of 8081 for the Colorado's elusive ingredient show at the Red Rock amphitheater. So Brandon's write in uh contained a firsthand account of this amazing event and I thought everybody out there would love this. So we're gonna go ahead and read it for you. Now, Colorado's elusive ingredient partnered with the Denver Film Society to put on this show for the grand finale of the 2013 film on the rock series. Leading up to the event, all of cast created audition videos for their desired roles in which cast later voted on. We made thousands of audience participation bags and printed hundreds of shirts. The day of the show was surreal. We arrived about eight hours before the show started to unload a truck bed of audience participation bags, set up, props, rehearse, et cetera. It was fun to imagine all the famous people who have been in the dressing rooms. We were setting up in the audience started arriving hours before the show started. As the crowd grew, some cast members got nervous and even vomited. Uh I stepped into the audience to say hi to some friends and got stuck with hundreds of people wanting to take photos. I also made the poor decision to hike up and down the stairs in my heels to sell audience participation bags. No, which I mean, there's some big balls right there stepping into a sea of 8000 faces. You might not come back. Brandon goes on to say the show itself was such a blast. The stage was so big. We had to run from one end to another to get the timing right for blocking. Hearing over 8000 people scream as I tossed off my Frank cape was a feeling like none other. Seeing thousands of glow sticks waved in the air and full toilet paper rolls getting tossed was awesome. It started raining hard during pool scene which was at least the best time to embrace it at the end of the evening. Once again, many people came up wanting photos. We tried to recycle as many audience participation items as possible but the rain and toilet paper made that miserable. Some items we didn't have to purchase again for years. With it being almost 10 years ago. Now, I, I do feel a little embarrassed about my costume and makeup versus how it is these days. Regardless. This was one of the most memorable nights of my life. Now, that is a big dick story. Can you imagine thousands of prop bags? Hundreds of t-shirts. We, we struggled to, to make like 50 prop bags for our pride show. Yeah. Could not be me. Absolutely not. That's fucking insane. Well, congratulations Brandon. You've got the biggest dick in the now. Hold on Meg. There's no way you're gonna convince me there's a bigger show than this. Uh Well, it depends on what you consider a show. See, no, if you're gonna caveat it, it doesn't count Brandon. You officially have the biggest dick in the whole community at least this week. Congrats, buddy. But all right, don't blue ball me. What else we got? Ok. So on October 31st, 2010 at the annual West Hollywood Halloween carnival in Hollywood, California, 8239 people participated in setting a Guinness Book of World Records record for the most people doing the time. Warp. This was part of a huge 35th anniversary Rocky celebration where Tim Curry served as the honorary mayor of West Hollywood. At the event. Local casts were featured in the parade and an estimated 500,000 people came to the event to celebrate Halloween. A special stage was even set up where Tim Curry appeared alongside members of the sins of the flesh cast. But does that count? Did they do the whole movie? Well, not as part of the event, but they did have a screening of the movie afterwards. Did everybody stay to watch? Unknown? I, I, I doubt it though. I mean, there, there was also a big charity ball event hosted that same weekend. It was held at the Wiltern Theater in L A on October 28th, 2010. And, and this is interesting, the show was produced by Lou Adler and Kevin Duncan and directed by Kenny Ortega. It was held as a benefit for Lou Adler's charity, the painted turtle, which is a summer camp for Children who are faced with life threatening and chronic illness. However, capacity for that venue is only around 2000 people. So I think Brandon's record is safe. I mean, that sounds so cool, but I don't think we can count it but still it is a very cool statistic 8239 people doing the time warp and with a huge production produced by Rocky producer, Lou Adler, but I don't think he counts. Ok. What about this one? I had no idea this was even a thing according to Larry Weisel, Rocky Horror was screened in its entirety as one of the overnight movies at Woodstock 94. You fucking Boomer. Woodstock, 1994 not Woodstock, 1969. That's the one with the Boomers. Literally also Rocky didn't even exist for another half a decade. The fact that, you know, that makes you a boomer, literally boomer. Ok. So what about this one? Then? There were over half a million people at Woodstock 94. Was there a shadow cast? No, doesn't count. Well, that's our show then. Congratulations Brandon. It's the biggest one we know about. If you've got a mammoth donger of a show that you think we missed, we would love to hear about it and that's our show. As always, we like to thank our editor Aaron from Tennessee. We appreciate all of your work. If anyone has a question, they'd like us to answer on air for our ask a question segment or some community news they'd like us to chat about or even a cool story to share with the community. We would love to include it in our show. Just go to our website rocky talky podcast dot com and fill out our contact form to tell us all about it. If you're enjoying Rocky Talkie, please help us out by rating, reviewing and subscribing to the show. It makes the podcast more accessible to new listeners and that helps us to grow the show. And if you want even more Rocky talky content, check us out on Facebook, youtube, Instagram and tiktok, all at Rocky Talkie podcast. Let's talk to you next week. Bye bye bye also while you're on tiktok. Don't forget to check out hashtag gentle minions. It's gonna be a thing. You guys, it is not gonna be a thing, it's gonna be a thing. It is not gonna be a thing. I put the full force of the New York City cast behind this to make it a thing. I support our brothers and sisters and other kinds of siblings in audience participation movies. Yeah. All, all five of us active cast members from the New York City cast were gonna do this thing. Could you support a bunch of 16 year olds ruin the ruining. The only day that mom has gotten to take a fucking break from her stupid little crotch spawn. Yo, fuck mom. It was her choice to have stupid little crotch bond. Let the crotch bonds. Enjoy kids yelling at movies. Maybe one day they'll grow up to be audience participants too. That's a terrible take. All right, previous winners of the previous winners of the K K K. We are indeed talking about the, there was a, there was a smudge on my screen that made gentle minions look like gentle mino. Um So I was very confused for a second. We are, man. It's so dirty and so sad. But what are you gonna do? I'm busting out the Seth. Thus fucking council. Listen.