Show Notes for Episode 8

Episode 8 - Transcript

The Legendary Brad/Riff Sex Scene


Hello, everybody and welcome back to Rocky Talkie. Thank you all so much for tuning in with us. I hope you had a great holiday. Hello, John and Aaron. Hi. Hello. How was your holiday? I'm tired. I'm very tired, but I'm here and I'm ready to do the thing. That's it. I'm excited. I had an awesome holiday. I got a bunch of great gifts over Christmas. I gave a bunch of fun gifts. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. We had ham, we managed to make exactly the right amount of mashed potatoes this year. That's, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I did. I opened a bunch of gifts, uh, and then proceeded to play among us for 4.5 hours on Christmas. That's exactly how quarantine. 2020 Christmases for millennials were spent this year. Did you play on Switch? Did you play the new version of among us? Oh, no, I'm not a pleb. I played on my PC like a real gamer. Good, good job, good job. And my partner Savannah got me a, uh, a stream deck for my stream. So now I can. Yeah. So now I can do things without having to pay attention to like the, the actual, like, streaming stuff. I can like, play with my lights. I can put like funny voice effects on my voice. I can like, switch through my scenes. It's so fucking dope. I'm really excited to use it. That sounds so fun. Christmas was kind of muted over here in uh Central Jersey. Me and Josh spent Christmas with my family, but because of COVID, I only had to go to one Christmas this year, which was very, it was weird. It was very weird. I'm very used to like going to like eight different Christmases and like banging them out and hoping for the best. But this year it was just like me and my close family and we all got tested. It was very calm. It was a very calm holiday. I enjoyed it. You said banging them out? Yeah, you did. You know I was going to say that the best gift I got was this really wonderful drawing tablet that me and Aaron, you know, so caring got me. But now Aaron you can get fucked. Bang it out. Oh my God. OK. Whatever. Can we just can we just move into our first segment? Can we do that, please? Let's bang it out. All right. So not surprisingly, we're pretty light on global news this week. We do have one cute little Christmas story for everybody out there. It is very cute. So everyone's favorite drunk Uncle Barry. Boswick partnered with the Mount Dora Area Chamber of Commerce in Mount Dora, Florida to put on a virtual holiday performance because of course, their regular Light Up Mount Dora holiday celebration was canceled this year. So instead they put on a very sweet Christmas virtual show and Barry hosted it the grand finale. And the most fun act in my totally unbiased opinion was Uncle Barry, reading to some of the kids from Montessori at Roseborough school. This was really adorable. Barry's wearing this ridiculous Christmas sweater. It was like Rudolph, the red Nosed Reindeer. And he's got a massive red throbbing pop. Where's your mind at? Stop. It was a pom pom. Nicky stop. Do you not know how the song goes, Nicky? Right off the Red Nosed Reindeer had a massive throbbing dick. No. So the massive red throbbing pom pom was right on his tummy and it was like Rudolph's nose. He was also wearing pretty great, like Brad driving scene slacks. He sat with a few kids from the school and he read twice the night before Christmas and oh, he really puts his whole heart and soul into this performance. It was dramatic and intense yet somehow lighthearted and festive. Uh meg. Can you play a little bit of that good shit right here? He spoke not a word but went straight to his work and filled all the stockings and then turned with a jerk and lay his finger the side of his nose and then with a nod, the chimney he rose, sprang to his sleigh to his team, gave a whistle and away they all flew like the down of a thistle. And I heard him exclaim and he drove out of sight. Happy Christmas to all and to all a good night, night, night. Good night. Oh my God. He's so extra with the reading. Like, fuck, get into it. I know he's such a funny guy. You guys want to know the best part about this video though. I mean, Barry didn't take his pants off once during the entire video. That's honestly really impressive. As far as he's concerned, Barry takes his pants off literally everywhere he goes. I'm pretty sure the last time Barry kept his pants on for like any performance whatsoever was when he was in Teen Beach movie. Well, Barry, we hope you had a Merry Christmas. Thanks for keeping your pants on around all those school kids. So let's move on to community news. Yeah, everyone at Rocky Talkie podcast would love to happily say congratulations to Adrian and Polly on your engagement. They have been such loyal friends to the show and I'm so excited for them. Honestly, Adrian Pauly, I was so happy for you. I completely blocked it out of my mind that y'all decided to get engaged on Christmas. Like you are the only couple that's allowed to do that from here on like every other couple that gets engaged on Christmas. I'm going to hate them. This is bullshit. We set a $50 limit guys. But really, congratulations, Adrian. Congratulations, Paul Lee. So happy to see you share the rest of your life together. That must be absolutely incredible. Congratulations. Congrats guys. So cool. So the kids of Albany, which is a shadow cast that is based out of the Palace Theater in downtown Albany. New York is currently hosting a save the stage raffle to help keep their theater from closure. So like a lot of our home theaters, the Palace has been dark since March and is struggling to stay open. The kids of Albany cast is currently holding a save hour stage raffle. The proceeds of which will be split between the Palace theater and the cast. I'd really suggest checking this out. They have some really cool prizes for the Raffle winners. The grand prize is a large Franken Furter print signed by Tim Curry and they've also got a poster of the Palace theater signed by Barry Bostwick, plus a ton of other prizes. They've got fun pop t-shirts, buttons, pins, a custom throw blanket, a whole bunch of desserts from local bakeries which look absolutely fucking delicious. And I'm sure they could ship if necessary. I'm looking into it. I want the goods, but they got a lot of great stuff and it's for such a good cause. So, Raffle tickets are only $10 each, which is a steal if I do say so myself. The winners will be announced on New Year's Eve, which is December 31st on their social media accounts. Their tickets are available to everyone in the United States. So, if you'd like to try your luck at a neat old prize and help out the kids of Albany, I'm gonna need you to go to the kids of Albany dot com to buy them tickets. Speaking of a neat prize, we've got a ton of write ins this week guys. Jesus. What a neat prize. It's so neat. I exchange it for like a spider ring. I mean, maybe an eraser. Something tasty. But anyway, speaking of something tasty, our first write in is from our dear friend, the emperor of New England. So let's hop into it. Shit. Name. Some asshole from New England obviously. And the message, well, hello there first. I'd like to directly address sins in parentheses. Not sure if I spelled that right. But oh, well, don't worry, Duke. It's an A, not an I but it's a podcast. Nobody has to know. I assure you I am very interested in whatever was behind those sensor beeps. Meet me at the Dunkin Donuts. No, not that one. The other one. Yeah, there insert smiling devil emoji here. Secondly, to Nikki. Actually Duke. It's N IC K I not N IC K Y but again, it's a podcast. So your secret is really safe with us. Yeah, we won't do you, I'm actually younger than you. Still over 18. Don't worry, sins. That's really cool. We're close in age and I grew up listening to cassette tapes and watching a V C R so I don't really know what to say about your lack of understanding of those. Maybe you're just uncultured or maybe I'm just putting you down because I want to feel superior. The second one, it's the second one. Oh, I thought it was the first one. Speaking of superiority. You called me the Duke of New England in episode five. I like that. Call me the Duke though. Admittedly, after submitting the stripes question, I realized it would have been more clever to call myself some asshole from Massachusetts. Take your, take your pick, I suppose yours some asshole. The Duke. Oh man, guys. That is a lot to unpack. I just, I hope we all get to meet up at a con one day and maybe we can introduce Snugs and the Duke of New England and they can go the out of the, of each other behind that Dunkin Donuts. Honestly, they sound like they'd be perfect for each other. And honestly, your highness before, before you start picking on Nicky for how uncultured she is. I would just like to point out my first car was a 1979 Pontiac Bonneville that had an eight track player and I used to play Kiss and Olivia Newton, John's Greatest Hits and all kinds of great stuff on that. All through high school. I didn't listen to those because I was cultured. I listened to those because I was poor. Yeah. And you know, me with all my waitressing riches, I've only been exposed to modern technology like Walkman. Remember those? Well, I don't know about y'all but I like vinyl because I'm both cultured and rich. I'm just hitting, I'm neither. I'm, I'm a swine and poor. Shut the fuck up. Can I just say though? Have either of you thought that sins and the Emperor of Massachusetts, like might be the same person? Oh, like the writing styles are kind of like similarly aggressive. Like you think weird, I feel like that would be very weird for sins to then write like sins wrote into the show and told the asshole of New England that he was going to like lick his nasty crack. Is that just like another form of masturbation? Are you implying that you've never looked in the mirror and been like, I'd fuck me. I mean, I would, but I wouldn't write into a podcast about it. Why not? I mean, I, I definitely see what you mean. It would be a little weird if the same person was writing in and trying to fuck themselves. Although I know that totally happens. Sometimes I tell people to go fuck themselves all the time. I internet. Well, you're highness of Massachusetts, whether you're also Snooks or kind of sins or not sins at all. John and Aaron, love you, buddy. I'm still on the fence. We hope we can help you hook up with your right and soul mate, whether it's sins kind of sins or not sins at all. Thank you so much for all your great questions so far. We love hearing from you and we can't wait to hear more of your adoring letters. So we've got one totally anonymous write in not even a pseudonym this week with some feedback for the show. A little corrections corner for Aaron with some info he got wrong and some shade for Snooks. The message reads, top five dictations spelled D IC K S 10 is too long for this anonymous persona noted about the first seven ridiculous podcasts with ridiculous spelled with a dick. Yeah. All right. Bear with my pronunciation. Here I am Danish. OK. That means five in German. We're doing German numbers. That's good Rocky Talky podcasts on Alexa devices won't give it to you in chronological order either. Hence you're in good company. Veer. That means four research confirms of someone's theater exposure as a youngin. And if white toddler shoes with black paint aren't proof enough. There's a butt load of costume, dress up, photos, dress up for school projects. Of course, dry. Three infamous trip was to Dolly wood, not dolly world. Apologies to Dolly Jeez Aaron Way to fuck that up. I see. Yeah, Dolly is gonna, this is like a chain letter. It's like if you don't forward it to 15 people, Dolly Parton is going to appear on your ceiling in the middle of the night and kill you. That's horrifying. That's absolutely horrifying to Jolene. OK. I'm sorry, two, keep it coming because the three SU or four some or five some or, or G you got going on is awesome. Love, love, love your attention to research detail in answering Nikki's question during the session. Uh-huh and I, and getting on to the main reason for this written expose the culminating end all the big shebang. The reason for the season is to tell Mr or Mrs sins to get off your high fucking rocking horse because when you didn't accept the proverbial compliment of to go fuck yourself, you lost your credibility. Of course, that is a compliment. Even in the before times the go fuck yourself. Context has a mother load of good humor like the non sequitur comic strip to Trump, the shit load of modern jfs. And if Spider Michael Imperioli can say to Jimmy the Gent Conway, Joe Pesci and Goodfellas, why don't you go fuck yourself, Tommy? You know you're in good company. And yeah, it's confirmed that the phrase has been uttered during an unconventional win by the mother figure. So set your slop bucket and potty mouth aside and appreciate what you've been given over and out support of Twits for life. And this is followed by a citation of the sources used for the write in, including a citation for a go fuck yourself, Jeff Aaron. I would love to hear your thoughts on this ride in. Dude. Any idea who this might be? They have a pretty dirty mouth. Absolutely, no idea. Couldn't, couldn't possibly be anyone. I know no one, no one knows those kinds of secrets and lives to tell the tale about. This is just like a whole mother load of information. I'm just oozing with, you know, just clarity about. Honestly, I feel like these supportive twits for life should probably do some inverse punishment and wash their own mouth out with soap. Any idea, Bud? I'm, I'm stumped. I am stumped. Mother of pearl. I have no idea. Must be anonymous. Thanks mom. God damn it. Uh You know, I had plausible deniability and then they had to talk about the damn shoes. So Mrs Aaron right in. Uh No, this would be uh Mrs Tidwell. That's, that's my mother. Um I love you. Mom and dad. You guys are great. I didn't know you knew some of those words. We're gonna have to talk about that. Next time we sit down together, we'll talk about the appropriateness of using that kind of language on the internet. You know, that you're really putting yourself out there and that the words that you say are representative to all of the people who hear you. So I'd like you to think about that. And we'll talk about it next time we're on the phone. Thanks, Aaron's mommy and daddy. Keep writing in. This is exactly what happens when you have supportive parents on like an R rated podcast. You know, this is why I'm happy my parents aren't supportive. Wow. You know, and I, I'm just gonna point this one out here real quick. Meg Fucked me on this one and didn't put this in the show doc. So this blindsided the crap out of me. Um So yay, thanks. Next time you get a present, you might, I don't know, I'm gonna put poop in your bed. I don't, I don't really know what to do here and you share a bed with her. Just hate fuck after the recording and everything will be OK. I cook a lot. Well, uh twits if I may, this has been fun as hell and thank you so much for the writing and we're glad that you're enjoying the shows and we're even happier that you're fact checking the important stuff. Dolly World for fuck's sake, Aaron, I know I know it's fine. We'll go to Disney Planet next time and to snugs, we love you buddy, whoever you are, we know this episode has been a roller coaster for you. You're getting all over the place. You might be two people. I don't know. We hope that we get to hear whatever you've got to say about all of this next week. And with all the love in the world we say to you go fuck yourself. Our last write in is from nose for typed N O Z. The number four A T U Fancy no cast affiliation from Central Canada. John, let's just call him. It'll be easier. Oh, you don't want me to say N O Z four A T U for the rest of us, you know, he says his own name a lot. So I think we should just call him N O Z four A T U. I feel like that's more you know him. That really just so no, so no writes. I've got a few stories about how Rocky has woven through the majority of my life. Oh, no. Do tell us. I have been a huge Rocky Horror fan since I was 15, which was in 1988 before I saw it in theaters and before it was available on V H si fell in love with the music and then sought out a copy of the movie before I even knew about the participation side of things. I found a bootleg copy of a copy of a copy of a copy on V H S eventually and I was hooked. It only played in our area on Halloween but my virgin experience when I was 16 blew me away. I bet it did my friend total, total chaos that I wasn't completely expecting. So why am I writing? I got some super fun. Stories about Rocky from my life. I won't write them out in full here. But if you want to know more, let me know. I'm in both the creatures of the night books. The first one dressed up as Frank for my virgin experience and the second getting a tattoo of the lips on my chest by one of the top 10 tattoo artists in the world at the time. Oh, that's cool. Right. I was behind the camera of an interview. I worked in media with a drama professor talking about Shakespeare in the park in about 1995. And the voice was so familiar. Halfway through the interview, I realized it was the photographer from the Haps cha wedding and a Transylvanian Henry Wolf. I recognized his voice from the one line that he had in the movie. I still have the 15th anniversary jacket actually have about $1000 in merch from the late eighties, early nineties. But this one's my favorite. So seeing the 45th anniversary stuff now makes me feel a little old. It should all of us. I saw Tim Curry when he was King Arthur in Spam a lot in New York. He didn't come out back for an autograph. Damn it. I had the chance to be the volunteer handler for the Rocky Horror reunion at Toronto's Fan Expo a few years ago in 2017, but I already had burning man tickets so I couldn't do it. My thought was I might run into Susan Sarandon a burning man. So it might even out. I didn't, but I did go to a showing of Rocky with a shadow cast at Burning Man in 2014 and 2017. It's a weird place to see it, but super fun. And this year I'm not sure who put it on, but I went to Rocky Horror in alt space on V R. It was super fun, sort of like being there, audience theater, hot dogs and toilet paper. I heard about that. That seems kind of cool. I was a part of Sapiro fan club back in the day. Still have my membership card. He sent me all kinds of photos and papers on it. I had a comedy radio show on community radio for about 15 years called Inside Insanity. Hence the Hotmail address played as much obscure Rocky Horror stuff as I could possibly find. And lastly another near miss, we were booked for a trip to London this spring for a wedding and I had booked a night at Oakley Court. So sad that COVID canceled it for us. Anyway, if you find any of this interesting, let me know and I can elaborate on any of this. I could talk about Rocky Horror forever. It's been a huge part of my life. Thanks for making a great podcast, two absent friends. That is such a cute ending. Oh, yeah, this is great. I love this. Right. And NASRA. Thank you so much. This is a great letter. I always love talking to people who've been around the community forever because I'm fascinated by all the war stories like this that you can only really accumulate by having been entrenched in all of the Rocky community for decades. I love all of the little tidbits that you have here. I take a look at Creature of the Night pretty much every single week for this show. I've flipped by your photos a dozen times. They definitely ring up. Imagine seeing Rocky at Burning Man though. That sounds like a made up thing that, that had to have been totally nuts. Like, was it a million times more insane than a regular show? Yeah. And I'm really sorry, your Oakley Court trip got canceled. I hope you get another chance to go when the world stops ending also. I hope I can go. Do you want to go together? Yeah. Not me. Yeah. No, just Nicky. Nicky and no N Os four V R A T U. I don't know how to spell that word. I know that we all love to hear the long versions of some of these stories, especially Aaron, like I can hear his dick getting hard all the way across the Hudson River right now. Stop. I feel called out. You should know. Thank you so much for writing in and sharing with us our answer to you, you and to all of our listeners is that we'd like to offer you a new segment and we're going to call it big dick story time like Uncle Barry and those kids. No, Nicky, shut the fuck up. Not like that. But to all of our listeners, if you've got a really, really cool story from your time doing Rocky, like something that will make your dick look bigger than mine. We'd love to hear it and share it on our show. If you like, I don't know, went to a crazy Rocky show at Burning Man or if you performed at a really cool venue or you like time warped in front of the queen or whatever the fuck other shenanigans that you could have gotten yourself into. Send them in. We'll read them on air and everyone will know how big your dick is snugs. This is the segment for you, buddy. I, I saw Barry Bosz's Butt one time. Does, does that count? No, Aon, we've all seen Barry Bostick's but literally everyone listening has seen Barry Boswick Butt counterpoint. If you've been doing Rocky for more than like an hour and a half and you haven't seen Barry Boss, but that's a total big dick moment and you should tell us about that or like anything else, anything else preferably? Yeah, please. And if you have any other awesome stuff you'd like to share in our community news segment. If you're working on a Rocky related project, you're proud of like Jill and her Instagram account, which I love, by the way or if your cast is planning something fun. We'd love to talk about it here. Just go to our website rocky talky podcast dot com and send us a message. We can't wait to hear from you. Hi, I'm Kelly and I'm Leandra and we host Rocky Horror Minute, the podcast where we discuss the Rocky Horror Picture Show in excruciating detail. One minute at a time. We're doing this show to share our love of the lyrics. You've never seen a pro in real life? No. Work with Same with Raisins, right? Our passion for performance. Oh my God. I was like bad knees stupid. Sober attention to detail. I know that everybody's curious. That car is a 1964 Ford Falcon deluxe sedan Ford or 54 D and to unlock secrets that would otherwise be lost to time. Oh, are you asking if I know the name of the Cheetah and why it had such a problem with the snake? Visit us on the web at Rocky Horror minute dot com for more information or look for us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, youtube or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. And with that, I think it brings us to everybody's favorite segment. Nicky asks a question. Uh Don't you dare put words in my mouth? My favorite is global news. I really like, sign off. I really love it when the podcast ends. Actually, I'm a, I'm a fan of all those bloopers at the end. That's what I'm saying. Me too. Check them out. Yeah. Honestly shout out to Meg, our producer for adding those bloopers in because they're fucking hysterical. I love hearing how many times I mess up because I feel like 80% of the loopers are me and I can't tell if Meg is like adding me or if it's genuinely me. So like either way, fuck you Meg. Yeah. Fuck you. Before we jump in today, we've got a couple of follow ups from last week, Larry Viel helped us out with a little more information about the statues from last week's episode, Jill. This one's for you. Larry wrote in the Janet statue is owned by the son of a scriptwriter who lived in Spain. Huh? Go figure the way he explained it to me. This is explained to Larry. There was a party when the film wrapped and a lot of stuff was destroyed. The crew that broke down everything painted Janet's pubes and nipples. But the scriptwriter salvaged the statue and gave it to his daughter who was an aspiring artist. She painted it to look like a harlequin and it's been in his kitchen ever since. Oh, wow. She's got this painted on top and a mask. It's like a checkerboard pattern and her hair is brown. Well, I'll be damned. It's nice to see that Janet is alive and well, I really like the phrase son of a scriptwriter, just like completely separately as like a bleep for a curse, like a son of a scriptwriter. Oh, sadly, though Larry was also able to share a photo of the Doctor Scott statue from after filming this one doesn't have such a great story. He doesn't look so lucky. His face is like fully painted black and he's, he's pretty banged up. The photo shows him outside near the trash along with the other set pieces that were destined for the dump, like the Transylvanian Convention sign. So a little bit of good news there. A little bit of bad news. Thanks Larry. We love finding out about this kind of stuff. Anyone know where Brad and Rocky ended up two down two to go. So we've also got a second follow up on the photo of Columbia holding the egg from last week. Several of you hit us up and let us know that the egg photo is, in fact real and my is out of whack. Is that like Photoshop? Of course, it is. So you all told us and now we are happy to share the good news. The Columbia photo appears both in the Mick Rock book but also several other sources over the years. Oh, yeah. I don't know how I missed this one. It is right there in the Mick Rock Book on page. There's a handful of other photos that are like right there next to it. It's clearly from the same chute. It's Nell standing in front of the gargoyle and yep. There it is standing there with the egg. Does that change our verdict on the eggs? I'm still convinced it's an urban legend. Even with the photo being completely verified. I'm standing pat. I don't think it provides a ton of new evidence, but I mean, it still leaves the question out there. Right. Yeah, I think I'm still hugely skeptical like just because the picture is real does not necessarily mean that they had an Easter egg hunt because like the egg isn't painted, the egg is not decorated. It's just a regular fucking egg. Something tells me that it was just a lunch on set and little nell was just being a fucking weirdo as she usually is. So also little. Now, if you, for some reason, listen to this, I love you, please don't kill me actually, or please kill me. That would be like the greatest way to go out as somebody who's a fan of Rocky. Hard to get murdered by little now. So either way, either don't kill me or do it just shit or get off the pot little now. OK. Thank you all for letting us know we love when you write in and thanks for making sure that we don't commit the cardinal sin of being wrong on the internet. And speaking of sins, we have two writing questions this week, Nikki, you get the pick this time. Eggs or butt sex. Uh. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no. You heard me eggs or butt sex? Well, didn't we just do eggs? So you're choosing? But sex? No, no. Ok. Eggs. Definitely eggs. All righty. Well, our first write in is from red. From the New York City cast. Hey, red. So they write. Ok. Rocky talkie. You talked about eggs and I have another egg related question for y'all. This one might be more of a challenge though. So gird your loins. I don't like how that sounds red. I don't like it either. So unsubscribe, I'm unsubscribing from my own podcast. So I learned recently that professional clowns register their character makeup. There's a collection in London where all the faces are painted on. Get this eggs. Here's a link to a BBC article from 2017 about it. So here's my question to you, Rocky Talkie is Colombia's clown. Make up an egg registered face. I'm excited to hear how you investigate this much love to all of you red. First off, I don't like the phrase egg registered face like I feel like that phrase has never been uttered before. There's definitely a subreddit out there for like phrases that have never been said before. So red find that subreddit and post the phrase egg registered face on it. Secondly, what a cute question I had never heard about this before. So thank you for giving me some education today. Me neither. This was a lot of fun to learn about. The clown egg registry serves as a visual database of around 250 painted clown faces all kept on record on either blown or ceramic eggs. The collection is housed in Wookie Hole in Somerset England. The eggs serve as a non legally binding copyright of each individual clown face, which if you're following along means that they are not legally anything. Yeah, it's just faces on eggs. You're fun. The register is kept by Clowns International, which was started in 1947 and originally known as the International Circus Clowns Club. When it was just a yearly meeting. This once a year gathering was arranged by circus owner Billy Smart for publicity. He would have his circus clowns visit the grave of esteemed clown, Joseph Grimaldi and Lea Wreath. This is a yearly meeting that has been kept alive to today. Are you with IC C C IC P much motherfucking wicked clown love clown egg. We'll cut that. I hope all y'all listening at home just popped open a two liter go and are spraying it all over your domicile right now. C C C. That's my new favorite rap duo. So circus enthusiast Stan Bolt saw this yearly gathering and out of it created the International Circus Clown Club which in 1978 became clowns. International membership is open to all types of clowns. Nicky. You're first in line. Oh My God. So the registry of clown eggs is a collection owned by Clowns International. So entry to Clowns International is restricted to working clowns with developed visual identities. Again, Nicky who seek to use a new name, which is a name not already used by a member or associated with a famous clown, new clowns. Clowns under 18 and clowns who aren't performers are not eligible to receive an egg though may be eligible to join Clowns International for the record. Both my persona and Colombia's makeup are not on an egg at Wookie Hole. Registration is restricted to working clowns with developed identities within the clown community and individual clowns have to take it upon themselves to register their faces and have their image worked into an egg. There are only about 250 eggs within the collection. And even if Sue Blane submitted the makeup for an egg, it would have been rejected by Clowns International as it isn't connected to an actual clown. Sue Blane actually did speak to Jim Whittaker on the subject of Columbia's makeup and costume while he was writing his book, Cosmic Light. Uh That interview is recounted in still the beast is feeding so we can talk about it here because I have that book and I don't have the other book. Uh So Sue Blane said that she designed Columbia's look around. Little Nell's already colorful persona. I kept the theme going. She proclaimed, but there was no question. Once you met Nell, you go with what Nell is, you can see that a lot in the original stage show costume for Colombia, she was wearing glittering striped trousers. They were like rolled up to mid calf with her socks, socks and sock suspenders. The whole look was meant to evoke the thirties tap dance star, Ruby Keeler. So she wore a glittery waistcoat and it dipped like really low to intentionally expose Nell's rouged up nipples. Uh That's a look that persisted all the way through the show's initial run but was gone. Once the film adaptation was made good thing. How would the Annaly screen accurate out there resolve that one? We would find a way. Nicky fake nipple technology is very advanced. See, I like what you just said there, Aaron because that assumes that someday in the future you will play Columbia. And I despite being on the same cast as you, I will pay for that ticket. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. So Sue Blane also recalled that for the stage show, Columbia had outrageous eye makeup which got progressively more elaborate as time went by facial sequins glitter. And of course, Neel's trusty tat shoes finished the look. So basically all of this to say that Columbia is not a clown. No, she's a disco ball. She's a disco ball, disco balls international. You can visit the clowns international site as well as sign up to be a part of their organization. At W W W dot clowns international dot com. So our second write in is from Rowan, who is my Twitch mod. So shout out to Rowan. I love you. You beautiful bastard. So we had to skip it last week. But I bet all of you will agree that this question is worth the wait. Hey, Rowan, let's dig in. So I heard a rumor a long time ago that Richard o'brien found Barry Bostwick Hot. Once casting happened from there, he had written in a sex scene between the characters of Riffraff and Brad Majors. This scene was rumored to be filmed as well, but it was cut eventually as it didn't have a place in the story. I personally think that this is completely fake nonetheless. I found it funny and would like to hear your take and your history on it. I'll attach a Reddit thread in which somebody talks about it. They also attach a video of the supposed scene which is just so clearly fake but still absolutely hilarious. It wasn't the first time I've heard this story. Thanks Rowin. This is gonna be dope. So I checked out the link and this was on the subreddit, obscure media. The post has very little discussion but the only real information is in the title and it reads dubious deleted scene. 2001, long rumored to be a deleted scene from the 1975 film which did have a deleted riff and Brad sex scene. This video clip was shown at Rocky festivals for decades and is most likely a fabrication concocted for a Rocky Con in 2001. So the Vimeo video that the Reddit thread links to was posted by Steve Warwick, a longtime member of the Rocky community about a decade ago. And the description reads in this video edited comfortably into a spot just after it touched me is the world famous riff and Brad. But fuck scene, the video and audio quality were both atrocious. So I tried to clean them up as well as I could. Unfortunately, the results still aren't particularly satisfying. So I present this video as is, oh, so this isn't the original version of this video. It says that this Steve guy edited it together in 2010 and cleaned it up. Who knows what else he did to it. When we're looking at old source material, we want to have the original version. That's where you see all the cracks and mistakes. Do we have the original? There is what we can assume is the original form of this video which was posted on Rocky music dot org. And the description there gives us a little bit more detail, the infamous Brad Riff. But fuck scene as revealed at the Frankie goes to Hollywood Con in 2001. This was supposedly filmed for the Rocky Horror Picture Show but not included in the final release. For more details. Consult Arthur Levesque's Brad Riff. But fuck scene fa Q, I'm sorry, what? Why is there a full blown frequently asked questions, document about a deleted sex scene? Ok. We'll get there, we'll get there. Let's just look at this video first. It opens up with a blue V C R playback screen like implying that it was video captured from a V H S tape. We see red curtains in the background pretty similar to Janet's bedroom scene and there's a, a figure lying on a bed. Brad enters and he starts talking Meg cleaned up a bunch of this audio. So take a listen. This is the dialogue that happens, right? There's something wrong here. Terribly, terribly wrong. We need to leave here now, right? Want to know where Janet is right now. I should say not. How can I getting upset with me? I am not wrong. Separate on man. Know the time, feeling feelings. I never knew I had things that I shouldn't have and wind up. Not entitled. Certainly not you doing, I'm going to of the you go. So at this point, the audio cuts out as if Ben's Brad over on the bed gets behind him, lifts his robe and begins furiously dry humping Brad while still wearing his pants, you know, protection, protection and I hate you. Sorry. OK. What in the shitty youtube video was that you can barely hear anything meg has outdone herself to get you guys something listenable but trust me. The original audio on this thing sounds like every single noise filter was turned on and then played back through a tin can. I don't even have to get out my copy of the movie to know that Janet's bedroom scene curtains are more sheer than that. I'm pretty sure that's not Barry Bostwick. And why would it be in this shitty resolution? The whole movie was on film? Shouldn't it be wide screen? This looks like it was taped with my grandpa's camcorder. What I think this is trying really hard to do is make you believe that it's a 50 generation V H S tape, right? Something that's been copied over and over and over. Yeah, that's the primary way that bootleg videos were shared in the eighties and nineties. If you had deleted scenes or live footage, something recorded off of a TV or anything like that, it was probably on a V H S tape and that tape was probably a copy of a copy of a copy duplicated repeatedly when it was shared from person to person. Yeah. And, and that tape probably had warped audio, like way too many scratches to see anything. The color completely blown out. I mean, I've got a handful of really old Rocky bootlegs that are pretty much just that hell, that was the only way to get Rocky on tape before 1990. We talked about that saga back in like episode two then. Sure. That's what this video looks like a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a fanmade youtube video. I I can't deny it. This thing looks Janky. Maybe the quality is so bad because it's a copy of a copy of footage that was left behind on the cutting room floor. But I'm skeptical skeptical, I'm John. So what is this? Why does this even exist? Is it just some slash fan fiction video that was made before youtube? Why would you go through all the effort to make it look like a bootleg? Well, this is entertaining because unlike some of the other urban legends that we've talked about on previous episodes, this is an urban legend that has kind of fully run its course already. That video is actually the demon of the whole urban legend story where Riff mounts up on Brad and fully jumps to the shark. Oh, so where does it start? What's that FAQ thingy? So that FAQ is long since gone? But you can find an archived version of it that has its last update from 2009 hosted in the way back machine on a dot org. Oh, wow. This thing basically says it's all real and has a ton of information. It cites sources, it has tons of facts. This looks like a gold mine if we can verify all of this info, who is Arthur Levesque, the guy who researched and put all this together. Is he like your spirit animal Aaron? Not quite Arthur has been called the Weird of Rocky Horror crap. Is any of this true? It's dubious at best Arthur compiled and arranged several years worth of conjecture trolling and honestly nonsense into one huge document. All of it coming from our good old pal the Rocky Horror News group. OK. Now we're gonna do a little dramatic reading of some of the selections from the Q and A Nikki. Why don't you ask the questions? And John and I can switch off with the answers introduction question, the what the infamous Brad Riff. But fuck scene is a scene that was supposedly filmed for the Rocky Horror picture show but not included in the final release. Other supposedly lost scenes like once in a while have since come to light but the Brad Riff but fuck scene remains a rare and rumored collector's item question. Where did the Brad Riff? But fuck scene come from answer. It wasn't in the shooting script or the play some probably Richard o'brien, but no one is completely sure came up with it during the shoot. It was one of the things that apparently made sense at the time but that everyone involved later to decide was a bad idea. So we can confirm that one. Uh It's definitely not in the shooting script question. Why? According to one source, Richard o'brien was a tad intoxicated and while watching once in a while being shot developed the hots for Barry Bostwick and jumped in to improvise the scene. Bostwick didn't object and Jim Sharman insisted that the cameras keep rolling. Another rumor says that the scene was totally Richard o'brien's idea when he realized Riffraff would do Brad in the movie o'brien wanted an excuse to fuck him. But that's just a rumor. As for Barry, it has been said that this was sort of a rebound thing because he was confused from just breaking up with Susan Sarandon, whether or not he was even aware that the cameras were still rolling is debated. So hold on. Did Barry and Susan date? No, Barry Boswick and Susan Sarandon never dated b once in a while was not filmed anywhere near the same time that Janet's bedroom scene was filmed. They were days apart. Question so Richard o'brien never considered the Brad Riff butt fuck scene when writing the play. Well, there's another theory and the Rocky horror scrapbook take a look at the page with, they came from Denton High at the top. Joe Vitus is crossed out and replaced with the character name of Riffraff. Now go to the previous page and look at the song list. It says once in a while, Joe seems that Richard initially thought once in a while it should be sung by Riffraff possibly to Brad to appease him. Maybe this might make the tense of the lyrics make more sense. It could have been meant to lead into the infamous Brad Riff. But fuck scene. The only thing that's remotely true in this is that the character of Riff Raff was originally named Joe Vitus in Richard's original notes. Anything beyond that? I don't know, man. Question. Is this the Rocky porno video show? I've heard of. No, that's a completely different thing, an extremely bad porn movie parody of the Rocky horror picture show. Avoid, avoid, avoid, We talked about that already. Yeah. No, don't avoid it. Go listen to episode three. Right? Question. How does the scene go? So this transcript was posted to alt dot cult movies dot Rocky Horror several years ago. That's, that's the news group that we source everything from. It's an excerpt of a little script here. So, um, I guess John has to be Riff and I have to be Brad Nikki. You want to read these stage directions? Sure. There is a knock at Brad's door. Hm. A shadow slowly approaches Brad's bed. I see you have tried the specialty of the house. What who Brad turns on lights? Riff is standing over his bed but there are rules that have to be followed. But I, I didn't do anything. You've done enough. What are you talking about? You have tasted the sweet nectar of the prince. How, how do you know it's my job and now you must pay for your sins. Magenta and Colombia are otherwise encumbered so that leaves you for what for this, ah, express? I don't want to see this one. Riff grabs Brad and flips him over onto the bed unzips himself and starts to penetrate Brad. An evil smile comes across Riff's face. Question, is that really how it goes? Here's a description of the scene by someone else. Frank goes after Rocky leaving Brad alone and confused Riff knowing Frank will be gone for a while. Goes to Brad's bedroom. Janet finds Rocky and gets in on with him. What gets on gets on with him. Frank pissed that he has lost. Rocky goes back to Brad just to find him getting in up the ass by. Riff. Riff takes off with Frank and Brad running after him which brings us up to the mercy elevator scene with Frank whipping Riff for not only losing Rocky but also taking Brad. Ok? I mean that makes like some seance of sense, I guess makes sense. Whatever question is it nasty? Uh The answer here, it's a play on the senses really and doesn't show really anything at all kind of like the bedroom scenes it's done with a lot of shadow play and such no sheet in front. However, question what is wearing his butler uniform and some sort of fluffy pink slippers. Some say they have bunny faces on them. Others disagree even though that part of the screen is a little blurry. I think that what you are seeing is more of that white fur that is around the sides of the slippers. You can see this most clearly when rich legs fly up as he mounds spread, you can clearly see that the bunny faces have one inch high white fluff spouting from them. This is what really makes me think they are just fluff and not actual bunny images as someone who has sat and stared at a lot of costume pictures. The video evidence that we've been provided does not actually show any bunny slippers. So I can neither confirm this nor speak to the accuracy. The screen accuracy of any bunny slippers that you yourself might own at home. So, you know, you're just gonna have to fuck Brad barefoot like a heathen e question. Any squidgy details. It appears that Richard o'brien has a mole on his right buttock though some say that it's just another plot on the film like the black spot on Janet's statue arm and others say it's a tattoo of a lightning bolt. It can't be seen clearly enough to confirm that their face. Richard o'brien makes while coming has to be seen to be believed. What? Apparently somebody saw a version of this that we didn't see clearly. I would like to see it. I thought you didn't want this to happen. I don't, but now you kind of do right now. I kind of do. Yeah, that's right. OK. Question who else was involved. The answer. Richard supposedly came up with a few lines to be spoken by the criminologist after the scene, it is unknown if they were ever filmed. The only thing I can speak to this is that crim scenes were definitely shot last. So if something completely made up did happen, they would have had time to film some extra dialogue, maybe question anyone else. There does appear to be someone or the shadow of someone off to the side during that scene. It's probably a mistake just like when you can see the microphone before Da Janet, something gets a Transylvanian but they've all left the castle at this point. Correction. It is not a microphone. It is the lantern that hangs from the top of the church door frame. Apparently all the people who think that this is a mic that accidentally got into the shot are mistaken. Interestingly enough, Richard o'brien himself comments on the DVD that it is a microphone. It seems Richard o'brien does occasionally remember or relate details incorrectly. This may be another reason why some of the information in the scene is incomplete and or contradictory. Oh, this is such a self referential pile of garbage to all of the nonsense that was being talked about on the Anyway. Moving on question. Are there any references to it in the rest of the movie? Answer? No. Uh since it was added during production, not when the script was written, there are no lines in other scenes which refer to the Brad Riff scene specifically, superheroes was written long before the Brad Riff scene was created. So Brad's line about down inside, I'm bleeding has nothing to do with his anal rape. Ok. Once in a while was written before Rocky was even thought up. Richard wrote the song once in a while long before he had penned any of the rest of the movie. So, yes, you are right. It has nothing to do with this scene. Question. So what happened to it when Richard o'brien was clean and sober, he couldn't believe he'd done it and insisted the scene be removed from the film. It's not true that the scene was simply edited for MP A A rating concerns as some have suggested it was removed long before the film was submitted for a rating question. Has Richard o'brien ever spoken about the scene since? And the answer is someone asked Richard o'brien about the long lost Brad Riff but Fox scene after a showing of disgracefully yours in New York City. But all he would say is that he hated the scene and hoped that it was gone for good. This has dampened most people's hopes of ever seeing it on future releases. Giant fucking citation needed. I'll give you a giant citation question. Is it available? Answer? Not all of the negatives were destroyed. And even though no legitimate release of the Rocky Horror Picture Show contained the scene. It was included in at least one bootleg from China the 10th anniversary laser disk made in Tibet allegedly up until then, it was considered the rarest of rarities and most people denied that it ever existed. Ok. Uh There is no bootleg laser disk from Tibet. That is not a thing. There is no bootleg from China either that also never existed. So good luck question. Do any theaters have prints with this scene? The scene was only put on a limited number of early promo prints like superheroes. Fox didn't think that the US audiences would take to it. And so the scene was cut from the final release. Superheroes however, was at least kept on the overseas prints. The Brad Riff, but Fox scene was not when Rocky started to get really big in the US. Fox started running out of Princes. They first pulled prints from overseas, which is how we first got superheroes over here and then dug up the original promos too. Only a dozen or so since very few of the original prints promo or first real press are still in use. Finding one at all, let alone one that was still usable would probably be rather hard. Even the theaters that still have mono prints probably have a copy that was struck in the mid eighties around the time frame of the 10th anniversary and not an original one theater that was known to have a copy was the Balboa theater whose marquee is on the 15th anniversary video in Newport Beach. California, the Balboa later got a newer superheroes mono print wore it out in a few years. Picked up a new superhero's stereo print and then closed. Two months later, the cast. Midnight Insanity moved to the art theater in Long Beach, the print with the Brad Riff. But fuck, she was sent back to the distributor and more than likely just cut up and thrown away like most of the old prints. No, none of that's true. Question. Who else had one answer? According to Art Lorry, the Exeter Street theater in Boston had one around 1979. The word is the first print the theater received during its initial run had the Brad Riff butt fuck scene in it. Like with superheroes prints, film link did a poor job then of labeling the film case, but it only ran for one weekend before the film was replaced. We saw it on Saturday. Art said spent the next week trying to choreograph it to be as accurate as possible. And by the time the next Friday rolled around, it was already gone from the theater that Riff and I refer to that week as the week that will never be spoken of. Some have claimed that the print with the seam was not returned. But the projectionist cut most of it out honestly, out of all of this shit like being completely true. I believe that because Art Laurie, that man definitely, I cannot tell a lie. Kind of shit like I believe that I really do. Ok. Ok. Shout out to you. Art. I love you. Question. Are there any stills or photos from the scene? Answer trailers and press kits are often made from dailies while the movie is being made. Uh when the final film is released, many of the scenes you saw on the preview are not there, there was still a photo from the Brad butt fuck scene in an early edition of the press kit for the Rocky Horror picture show. It was intended to be part of the lobby card and still photos set from the film. But when the scene was cut, they also cut it from the press kits before they were released. Apparently a college student working for Fox at the time fished it out of the trash but refuses to make scans or copies of it. Larry Weisel has made several offers to buy it outright for his Iraqi photo site, but so far it has been refused. There are also occasional badly forged pictures on web pages claiming to be stills from the Brad Riff. But Fox scene usually placed there anonymously. These can be easily determined to be false by close inspection. Don't assume that you have true stills or the video from the scene without examining the evidence and the identity of the provider definitely don't pay any money, false videos of the scene surfaced on ebay a while back unless you're sure that you're getting the genuine article at the cir day Rocky convention. Mick Rock would not comment on the Brad of Earth but fuck scene. But he did acknowledge with a sly las grin that there were some photos that he took that he was not going to release. These were for his personal collection and that's fucking gross. Considering what we just talked about last week. The press kit for Rocky does not contain any of these. There is no version of the press kit that does contain photos of the scene. It doesn't exist. Question is the scene on DVD. So the answer here since the Rocky Horror, DVD does have at least one other Easter egg on it. Some people have speculated that the Brad Riff but fuck scene is also hidden somewhere on the DVD. This appears to be wishful thinking as no one yet has come forward to demonstrate its presence. I can personally say this is 100% false. It is not on there. I have ripped every single video off of the DVD, gone through every single file that is both on the DVD and on the Blu Ray. I didn't expect to find it and I didn't find it. Question, can I download it? Answer. It is not currently available on any web page or FTP site that I know of contact me. If you find it around the time that fox was going after people for distributing the revenge of the old queen script and others were being warned about certain MP threes on their site. One person who did have the scene online received a word from some of Fox lawyers. Apparently someone at Fox and or someone involved with the movie Richard o'brien question mark did not want to see this scene distributed. Another person who wishes to remain nameless claims to have gotten the scene off of Kaza a file sharing program some time ago but has not seen it up there since nor will she make her copy available there for fear of being charged with copyright violations or theft note that Kaza due to lawsuits is no longer a free and uncontrolled file sharing program. Man. You guys remember Kaza? I do remember Casa, I was just about to say this still like it says Kaza due to lawsuits is no longer a free and uncontrolled file sharing program. Does Kaza due to lawsuits still even exist? I don't, I don't think so. Question what do the Rocky Horror fans think? Most of those that know about it view it as a part of the movie's history even if they don't consider it cannon that it actually happened in the story because apparently this person has their dick so far up their ass that they had to explain what the word cannon meant for everyone who doesn't know what the, what cannon is. I don't know. I thought it was a big thing that shot out a bomb. Some are just as glad that it was deleted. Question has anything been written about it? There has been some fan art based on the scene and Arthur Levesque has written at least one song parody which alludes to it. That's true. Question has the Brad Riff. But fuck scene ever been performed as part of a rocky horror show stage performance. It's not possible to be completely certain given the number of performances done by small theater groups around the country. Not to mention the number done in foreign countries and other languages. Even if you had the CD of say the South Korean production and it had a full recording of the entire performance like the whole gory story rather than just the songs. Would you be able to tell if they had squeezed in the butt fuck scene if you didn't understand Korean? However, any professional group that puts on the Rocky Heart Pick show is expected to follow the official script provided by Samuel French Incorporated in the US and some other countries and Rocky Hor L T D in Europe, the script has gone through changes since the Rocky Horror Show debuted in 1973. But at no time has it ever contained the Brad Riff? But Fox scene keep in mind that the Brad Riff but Fox scene was created during the filming which came after the play. There is a rumor though that the producers of the 2000 Broadway revival. The Rocky Horror Show Live briefly considered including a Brad Riff scene which although inspired by the legendary movie scene would have probably differed significantly from it in order to shock and surprise audiences, but it never went anywhere. Possibly someone Richard o'brien or Christopher Malcolm. Question mark objected. There is no truth to this rumor, however, that Jared Emick, the original Brad Majors or Raul Esparza Riffraff refused to do the scene. It had already been decided against long before the show was cast. Question, why isn't it discussed more on the Rocky Horror News group? According to one collector, perhaps it's unfair of us to give away so many details about the Brad Riff. But fuck scene. Part of the thing that makes it so rare is that so few people have seen it. It's just like the revenge of the old Queen's script. Uh Well, not anymore. Uh Many people have never gotten their copies. So we stopped conversation on the news group because it's unfair to those people who missed out on it. It's really easy to find the revenge of the old Queen script. Now, just Google it, question, will it ever see the light of day again? At the June 2001. Frankie goes to Hollywood convention in Hollywood, California. The audience was shown a clip from the Brad but fuck scene details of how they found the clip and who it belongs to have not yet been divulged an air of secrecy. They expected this to be a surprise surrounded the exhibition. They have received many requests for a copy and promised that they will eventually provide some addendum. Almost three years later, they still haven't released. The Frankie goes to Hollywood Convention videotape, which they promised will contain the Brad Riff Buck buck scene that was shown at the con question. Is it true that Brad's verse in superheroes refers to this scene? I mean, I've done a lot. Doesn't make sense. If Brad only had sex once and down inside, I'm bleeding. Could mean that Riff Raff didn't use any k why answer the song's superheroes was in the original stage play. So it predates the Brad Riff but fuck scene which like the cannibalism of Eddie was added for the movie. One Rocky fan did an analysis of this scene for a cinema course at Rhode Island College and argued that the scene was added to provide some balance for Riff and Brad's characters. So this is the academic explanation that this person came up with Riff and Magenta are sibling lovers. But Magenta also has gay sex with Columbia, a human allowing Riff to have gay sex with Brad. A human provides some balance and you have to wonder if Riff released Rocky just so he could distract Frank and get his hands on Brad. Why else would he let the creation loose and risk Frank's wrath? Yeah, because Riff isn't just fucking chaotic, chaotic Brad after Janet is seduced into flowered by Frank. She goes on to have sex with Rocky and revels in the experience. The Brad Riff butt fuck scene after Brad is deflowered by Frank allows us to see the negative effect that sex has on Brad. Good God. I hope that you had to repeat the course. Ok. So that was a lot. It all sums up to sound like it could totally just be a massive troll. Yeah, I think we prove this one has a crazy number of facts that are either easily debunked. They're hears say they're unsubstantiated or they're just flat out wrong. But what's great is that when we trace some of these facts that are listed on the fa Q back to their original source posts on the news group, we can see all of these crazy embellishments and stories that happened over the course of just a couple of years. The reason we see this is because pretty much everyone in the community was using this story as a meme and not as an urban legend. There was the rumored footage of once in a while that proved true. So everybody didn't want to write it all off, but nobody had a problem using it as a meme when they weren't really sure of its validity or extremely skeptical. So it's not really an urban legend. We don't know if it's actually true, but probably not. And now it's become mem that makes so much more sense. It's not real. But are you sure we do have that first hand account from Art Laurie and Art Laurie is literally perfect. Look at the footage but like are you just look at it? It is obviously fake, but art Laurie is perfect but you have no sources. So the onus is on the person bringing the claim to prove that it's true. Not on me to debunk your crazy conspiracy theory. So it could be true. Art Laurie is perfect. Anyway, so the idea of this cut footage was meed out to the nth degree within the community. So was this video even shown at the 2001 convention? They did show it? I know that for a fact. Unfortunately, I wasn't personally there. That's about like three years before I started doing Rocky Year. I was born. You are small. I bet some of our listeners were there, head over to our Facebook page and leave us a comment on this week's episode. Let us know how you reacted when you saw the footage for the first time. So, wait, who made the video? We reached out to a whole bunch of our sources. We've been in the Rocky community forever and they all sent us the same legal boiler plate. Really weird. Never happened before. Fuck what? So this is actually just a big conspiracy. No, actually, so OK, don't tell anybody, but I heard that this video was rehearsal footage and that Richard o'brien pulled a black and white striped Easter egg out of Barry's ass at the end of the Uncut version. You know, the one dubbed in Klingon. Have you guys seen that one? I heard they're going to play it at R K 04. Ok. That's all the time we have for today, folks. Hey guys, it's Aaron from the future. Don't call this one just yet. Meg and I have done a ton more research and we found even more information about it that we're gonna share on an episode real soon. Stay tuned. We're not done with butt sex yet. 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If your cast is doing a show and you want to spread the word, or if you've got an amazing story from your Rocky horror career, go to our website rocky talky podcast dot com and fill out our contact form to share with us last, but not least we want to wish all of our listeners a very happy new year. We hope you get to party your hot little asses off just in a safe socially distanced sort of way. If you're seeing other people, please mask up and stay six ft away. If you get 2020 you'd never find out who sins is. And if they make it to the right Dunkin Donuts to meet up to with the Duke of New England and that would be sad as hell because I know we're all dying to find out how that shit goes down. It really do be like game of Thrones up in this bitch. We'll see you guys next Thursday. Bye. So Barry, we hope you had a Merry Christmas. Thanks for keeping your pants on around all those school. I'm not saying that I'll do it. So the kids of Albany, which is, oh, I start jingling my keys in the middle of that. I don't know why. It's like sometimes when I'm recording the podcast. I don't know what to do with my hands. So I just start like touching things around my desk. Yes. Sometimes I playing cards. John has been fired from the podcast and will be replaced by a broom with a beard. Honestly, I'm honored that you consider me say your fucking line. So the kids see now I like vinyl because I'm both uncultured. What now you see? I like vinyl because I'm both uncultured. Fuck. I'm adding myself literally making fun of myself right now. Oh Yeah. Give us that good shit. I don't wanna do this anymore. How, how did he touch you? Kind of sins or not? Sins at all? Not at all. Tag yourself. I'm kind of sins. Goddamn. All right friends. Are you ready for our last write in? No. Actually, I think we should take a break. Yeah. Hold on. Yeah. I'm gonna just crack. I'm gonna crack a cold one real quick. Sit back. Yeah. Just let me know when you're ready. Yeah. OK. I think I'm good. I think I'm good. I've had my wine. OK? Wait, the cold one was, in fact wine, wine, the canned wine. The future is weird. All right. So uh and my is out of whack. I think it would be and my shop is out of whack. I said both and meg can choose which one she likes better. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, because it's a, it's an old four chan meme. This looks shoot, I can tell by the pixel I've seen quite a few in my time. I have an excuse for that though because Josh won't let me go on four chan. That's probably for the best. Yeah, it's pretty bad. But yes, you're honored this, this right here, this, this statement you just made. I'm quitting. I'm quitting. I'm John. Hold on someone in the background. Really just went meow. Me too. I also went meow. Alrighty. Well, our first write in is circus enthusiast Stan Bolt. I don't know why I stopped there. That was like the end of Stan Bolt. Anyway, so circus is fuck. Why is circus such a hard word to say? Circus, circus, circus, circus, circus? If you, if you say any word more like a lot of times over and over again, it ends up just not being a word, son of a script of a writer. Good thing now, good thing. I don't understand this sentence. Good thing. Well, they change it. I just, how would the an screen accurate out there? I think, I think it's supposed to be sarcastic, Nicky because it's because I'm saying, you know, uh it was really low to expose Nell's tits. That happened that, that that was the visual thing all through the stage show, but it wasn't in the movie and you're like, oh yeah, yeah. Today we learned that Nicky doesn't understand written sarcasm. Yeah, I'll just start putting slash s at the end of it. Mhm So. Oh boy. OK. What's wrong? Y'all don't like hot Riff Raff Brad majors action. We're doing the butt Fox scene. All right, let's do the butt fuck scene. So I checked, wait, we're doing the butt fuck scene. Uh Yeah, I'm gonna have to loop up for that row and it's real tight. Rowan. Fuck. I'm gonna have to loop just audibly. That Rowan can peg me. Oh They're gonna love that. So, oh boy yo, that was kind of hot. I'm gonna have to show that to Josh and tell him to take notes. I got my brad costume. You know what if he needs to take notes, then let him take notes. I got, I got nothing for that for that fella. I got nothing for that fellow whatsoever. Josh, I love you. I don't have a grandpa or whatever because my grandparents have embarrassing names. Um uh Excuse me, I, I, they're embarrassing. They're like baby names. Uh Well, what I think, yeah, I just got there. I thought you were talking about like your grandparents have embarrassing nudes of themselves as babies. I said names. Oh I thought that they, no, I was with John. I thought, except I thought that they subscribed to your only fans. Oh my God. I was just implying that I call my grandfather Poppy. You guys are weird. You bitches is weird. I'm gonna go brush my teeth. I don't like the, the stage direction that says that he unzips himself because it sounds like he's wearing like a full body cost too. He might be. He's an alien after all that is valid. Yeah. Question what is wearing his, what is he wearing? What are you? She says as she twirls her hair. Question any squidgy details. I fucking hate that word. That's a new word that I don't want to ever hear again. I'm gonna have to message Josh be like, hey, ask Nicky if she wants to get some squid on, I'm gonna have to message me and say, hey, ask Aaron if he wants to get some divorce on later, get some divorce on. Yeah, babe, you wanna do that today? That sounds hot. Anyway, any squidgy hurt details. Um No, none of that. All right. I just read all that for no reason. No, no, I just mean none of that's true. Oh I was like you go fuck yourself Aaron last but not least we want to wish all of our listeners a very happy New Year, a very happy and New Year last but not least we I know sins come back. I miss you asshole from New England. It's on fucking sight bud. I want somebody to write in so I can insult them. So do that. You could have gone after my mom. Pay attention to me. Writers pay attention to me and that's that son of a preacher man, son of a scriptwriter. He's the son of a scriptwriter.
Hello, everybody and welcome back to Rocky Talkie. Thank you all so much for tuning in with us. I hope you had a great holiday. Hello, John and Aaron. Hi.

Hello
.

How
was your holiday? I'm

tired
. I'm very tired, but I'm here and I'm ready to do the thing. That's

it
. I'm excited. I had an awesome holiday. I got a bunch of great gifts over Christmas. I gave a bunch of fun gifts. Yeah, you did.

Yeah
, you did.

We
had ham, we managed to make exactly the right amount of mashed potatoes this year. That's,

yeah
.

Yeah
. Yeah. Yeah, I

did
. I opened a bunch of gifts, uh, and then proceeded to play among us for 4.5 hours on Christmas. That's exactly how quarantine. 2020 Christmases for millennials were spent this year.

Did
you play on Switch? Did you play the new version of among us?

Oh
, no, I'm not a pleb. I played on my PC like a real gamer.

Good
, good job, good job.

And
my partner Savannah got me a, uh, a stream deck for my stream. So now I can. Yeah. So now I can do things without having to pay attention to like the, the actual, like, streaming stuff. I can like, play with my lights. I can put like funny voice effects on my voice. I can like, switch through my scenes. It's so fucking dope. I'm really excited to use it. That

sounds
so fun. Christmas was kind of muted over here in uh Central Jersey. Me and Josh spent Christmas with my family, but because of COVID, I only had to go to one Christmas this year, which was very, it was weird. It was very weird. I'm very used to like going to like eight different Christmases and like banging them out and hoping for the best. But this year it was just like me and my close family and we all got tested. It was very calm. It was a very calm holiday. I enjoyed it.

You
said banging them out? Yeah, you

did
. You know I was going to say that the best gift I got was this really wonderful drawing tablet that me and Aaron, you know, so caring got me. But now Aaron you can get

fucked
. Bang it out. Oh

my
God. OK. Whatever. Can we just can we just move into our first segment? Can we do that, please? Let's bang it out.

All
right. So not surprisingly, we're pretty light on global news this week. We do have one cute little Christmas story for everybody out there. It

is
very cute. So everyone's favorite drunk Uncle Barry. Boswick partnered with the Mount Dora Area Chamber of Commerce in Mount Dora, Florida to put on a virtual holiday performance because of course, their regular Light Up Mount Dora holiday celebration was canceled this year. So instead they put on a very sweet Christmas virtual show and Barry hosted it the grand finale. And the most fun act in my totally unbiased opinion was Uncle Barry, reading to some of the kids from Montessori at Roseborough school.

This
was really adorable. Barry's wearing this ridiculous Christmas sweater. It was like Rudolph, the red Nosed Reindeer. And he's got a massive red throbbing pop. Where's your mind at? Stop. It was a pom pom. Nicky

stop
. Do you not know how the song goes, Nicky? Right off the Red Nosed Reindeer had a massive throbbing dick.

No
. So the massive red throbbing pom pom was right on his tummy and it was like Rudolph's nose. He was also wearing pretty great, like Brad driving scene slacks. He sat with a few kids from the school and he read twice the night before Christmas and oh, he really puts his whole heart and soul into this performance. It was dramatic and intense yet somehow lighthearted and festive. Uh meg. Can you play a little bit of that good shit right here?

He
spoke not a word but went straight to his work and filled all the stockings and then turned with a jerk and lay his finger the side of his nose and then with a nod, the chimney he rose, sprang to his sleigh to his team, gave a whistle and away they all flew like the down of a thistle. And I heard him exclaim and he drove out of sight. Happy Christmas to all and to all a good night, night, night.

Good
night. Oh my God. He's so extra with the reading. Like, fuck, get into it.

I
know he's such a funny guy.

You
guys want to know the best part about this video though. I mean, Barry didn't take his pants off once during the entire video.

That's
honestly really impressive. As far as he's concerned, Barry takes his pants off literally everywhere he goes. I'm pretty sure the last time Barry kept his pants on for like any performance whatsoever was when he was in Teen Beach movie. Well, Barry,

we
hope you had a Merry Christmas. Thanks for keeping your pants on around all those school kids. So let's move on to community news.

Yeah
,

everyone
at Rocky Talkie podcast would love to happily say congratulations to Adrian and Polly on your engagement. They have been such loyal friends to the show and I'm so excited for

them
. Honestly, Adrian Pauly, I was so happy for you. I completely blocked it out of my mind that y'all decided to get engaged on Christmas. Like you are the only couple that's allowed to do that from here on like every other couple that gets engaged on Christmas. I'm going to hate them. This is bullshit.

We
set a $50 limit guys.

But
really, congratulations, Adrian. Congratulations, Paul Lee. So happy to see you share the rest of your life together. That must be absolutely incredible. Congratulations.

Congrats
guys. So cool.

So
the kids of Albany, which is a shadow cast that is based out of the Palace Theater in downtown Albany. New York is currently hosting a save the stage raffle to help keep their theater from closure. So like a lot of our home theaters, the Palace has been dark since March and is struggling to stay open. The kids of Albany cast is currently holding a save hour stage raffle. The proceeds of which will be split between the Palace theater and the cast.

I'd
really suggest checking this out. They have some really cool prizes for the Raffle winners. The grand prize is a large Franken Furter print signed by Tim Curry and they've also got a poster of the Palace theater signed by Barry Bostwick, plus a ton of other prizes. They've got fun pop t-shirts, buttons, pins, a custom throw blanket, a whole bunch of desserts from local bakeries which look absolutely fucking delicious. And I'm sure they could ship if necessary. I'm looking into it. I want the goods, but they got a lot of great stuff and it's for such a good

cause
. So, Raffle tickets are only $10 each, which is a steal if I do say so myself. The winners will be announced on New Year's Eve, which is December 31st on their social media accounts. Their tickets are available to everyone in the United States. So, if you'd like to try your luck at a neat old prize and help out the kids of Albany, I'm gonna need you to go to the kids of Albany dot com to buy them tickets.

Speaking
of a neat prize, we've got a ton of write ins this week guys. Jesus. What a neat

prize
.

It's
so neat.

I
exchange it for like a spider ring.

I
mean, maybe an eraser. Something tasty. But anyway, speaking of something tasty, our first write in is from our dear friend, the emperor of New England. So let's hop into

it
. Shit.

Name
. Some asshole from New England obviously. And the message, well, hello there first. I'd like to directly address sins in parentheses. Not sure if I spelled that right. But oh, well, don't worry, Duke. It's an A, not an I but it's a podcast. Nobody has to know. I assure you I am very interested in whatever was behind those sensor beeps. Meet me at the Dunkin Donuts. No, not that one. The other one. Yeah, there insert smiling devil emoji here. Secondly, to Nikki. Actually Duke. It's N IC K I not N IC K Y but again, it's a podcast. So your secret is really safe with us.

Yeah
, we won't do you,

I'm
actually younger than you. Still over 18. Don't worry, sins. That's really cool. We're close in age and I grew up listening to cassette tapes and watching a V C R so I don't really know what to say about your lack of understanding of those. Maybe you're just uncultured or maybe I'm just putting you down because I want to feel superior.

The
second one, it's the second one.

Oh
, I thought it was the first one.

Speaking
of superiority. You called me the Duke of New England in episode five. I like that. Call me the Duke though. Admittedly, after submitting the stripes question, I realized it would have been more clever to call myself some asshole from Massachusetts. Take your, take your pick, I suppose yours some asshole. The Duke. Oh man, guys. That is a lot to unpack. I just, I hope we all get to meet up at a con one day and maybe we can introduce Snugs and the Duke of New England and they can go the out of the, of each other behind that Dunkin Donuts. Honestly, they sound like they'd be perfect for each other.

And
honestly, your highness before, before you start picking on Nicky for how uncultured she is. I would just like to point out my first car was a 1979 Pontiac Bonneville that had an eight track player and I used to play Kiss and Olivia Newton, John's Greatest Hits and all kinds of great stuff on that. All through high school. I didn't listen to those because I was cultured. I listened to those because I was poor.

Yeah
. And you know, me with all my waitressing riches, I've only been exposed to modern technology like Walkman. Remember

those
? Well, I don't know about y'all but I like vinyl because I'm both cultured and rich. I'm just hitting, I'm neither. I'm, I'm a swine and poor. Shut the fuck up. Can I just say though? Have either of you thought that sins and the Emperor of Massachusetts, like might be the same

person
? Oh, like the writing

styles
are kind of like similarly aggressive. Like you think

weird
, I feel like that would be very weird for sins to then write like sins wrote into the show and told the asshole of New England that he was going to like lick his nasty crack. Is that just like another form of masturbation?

Are
you implying that you've never looked in the mirror and been like, I'd fuck me.

I
mean, I would, but I wouldn't write into a podcast about it.

Why
not? I mean, I, I definitely see what you mean. It would be a little weird if the same person was writing in and trying to fuck themselves. Although I know that totally happens. Sometimes I tell people to go fuck themselves all the time. I internet.

Well
, you're highness of Massachusetts, whether you're also Snooks or kind of sins or not sins at all. John and Aaron, love you, buddy. I'm still on the fence. We hope we can help you hook up with your right and soul mate, whether it's sins kind of sins or not sins at all. Thank you so much for all your great questions so far. We love hearing from you and we can't wait to hear more of your adoring letters. So we've got one totally anonymous write in not even a pseudonym this week with some feedback for the show. A little corrections corner for Aaron with some info he got wrong and some shade for Snooks. The message reads, top five dictations spelled D IC K S 10 is too long for this anonymous persona noted about the first seven ridiculous podcasts with

ridiculous
spelled with a dick.

Yeah
. All right. Bear with my pronunciation. Here I am Danish. OK. That means five in German. We're doing German numbers. That's good Rocky Talky podcasts on Alexa devices won't give it to you in chronological order either. Hence you're in good company. Veer. That means four research confirms of someone's theater exposure as a youngin. And if white toddler shoes with black paint aren't proof enough. There's a butt load of costume, dress up, photos, dress up for school projects. Of course, dry. Three infamous trip was to Dolly wood, not dolly world. Apologies to Dolly Jeez

Aaron
Way to fuck that up. I see. Yeah, Dolly is gonna, this is like a chain letter. It's like if you don't forward it to 15 people, Dolly Parton is going to appear on your ceiling in the middle of the night and kill you.

That's
horrifying. That's absolutely horrifying

to
Jolene. OK. I'm sorry, two, keep it coming because the three SU or four some or five some or, or G you got going on is awesome. Love, love, love your attention to research detail in answering Nikki's question during the session. Uh-huh and I, and getting on to the main reason for this written expose the culminating end all the big shebang. The reason for the season is to tell Mr or Mrs sins to get off your high fucking rocking horse because when you didn't accept the proverbial compliment of to go fuck yourself, you lost your credibility. Of course, that is a compliment. Even in the before times the go fuck yourself. Context has a mother load of good humor like the non sequitur comic strip to Trump, the shit load of modern jfs. And if Spider Michael Imperioli can say to Jimmy the Gent Conway, Joe Pesci and Goodfellas, why don't you go fuck yourself, Tommy? You know you're in good company. And yeah, it's confirmed that the phrase has been uttered during an unconventional win by the mother figure. So set your slop bucket and potty mouth aside and appreciate what you've been given over and out support of Twits for life. And this is followed by a citation of the sources used for the write in, including a citation for a go fuck yourself, Jeff Aaron. I would love to hear your thoughts on this ride in. Dude. Any idea who this might be? They have a pretty dirty mouth.

Absolutely
, no idea. Couldn't, couldn't possibly be anyone. I know no one, no one knows those kinds of secrets and lives to tell the tale about.

This
is just like a whole mother load of information. I'm just oozing with, you know, just clarity about.

Honestly
, I feel like these supportive twits for life should probably do some inverse punishment and wash their own mouth out with soap.

Any
idea, Bud? I'm, I'm stumped. I am stumped.

Mother
of pearl. I have no idea.

Must
be anonymous. Thanks mom. God damn it. Uh You know, I had plausible deniability and then they had to talk about the damn shoes. So

Mrs
Aaron right in.

Uh
No, this would be uh Mrs Tidwell. That's, that's my mother. Um I love you. Mom and dad. You guys are great. I didn't know you knew some of those words. We're gonna have to talk about that. Next time we sit down together, we'll talk about the appropriateness of using that kind of language on the internet. You know, that you're really putting yourself out there and that the words that you say are representative to all of the people who hear you. So I'd like you to think about that. And we'll talk about it next time we're on the phone.

Thanks
, Aaron's mommy and daddy. Keep writing in. This

is
exactly what happens when you have supportive parents on like an R rated podcast.

You
know,

this
is why I'm happy my parents aren't supportive.

Wow
. You know, and I, I'm just gonna point this one out here real quick. Meg Fucked me on this one and didn't put this in the show doc. So this blindsided the crap out of me. Um So yay, thanks. Next time you get a present, you might, I don't know, I'm gonna put poop in your bed. I don't, I don't really know what to do here and

you
share a bed

with
her. Just hate fuck after the recording and everything will be OK. I cook a lot. Well, uh twits if I may, this has been fun as hell and thank you so much for the writing and we're glad that you're enjoying the shows and we're even happier that you're fact checking the important stuff. Dolly World for fuck's sake,

Aaron
, I know I know it's fine. We'll go to Disney Planet next time

and
to snugs, we love you buddy, whoever you are, we know this episode has been a roller coaster for you. You're getting all over the place. You might be two people. I don't know. We hope that we get to hear whatever you've got to say about all of this next week. And with all the love in the world we say to you go fuck yourself.

Our
last write in is from nose for typed N O Z. The number four A T U Fancy no cast affiliation from Central Canada.

John
, let's just call him. It'll be easier.

Oh
, you don't want me to say N O Z four A T U for the rest of us, you

know
, he says his own name a lot. So

I
think we should just call him N O Z four A T U. I feel like that's more you know him. That really just

so
no, so no writes. I've got a few stories about how Rocky has woven through the majority of my life. Oh, no. Do tell us. I have been a huge Rocky Horror fan since I was 15, which was in 1988 before I saw it in theaters and before it was available on V H si fell in love with the music and then sought out a copy of the movie before I even knew about the participation side of things. I found a bootleg copy of a copy of a copy of a copy on V H S eventually and I was hooked. It only played in our area on Halloween but my virgin experience when I was 16 blew me away. I bet it did my friend total, total chaos that I wasn't completely expecting. So why am I writing? I got some super fun. Stories about Rocky from my life. I won't write them out in full here. But if you want to know more, let me know. I'm in both the creatures of the night books. The first one dressed up as Frank for my virgin experience and the second getting a tattoo of the lips on my chest by one of the top 10 tattoo artists in the world at the time. Oh, that's cool. Right. I was behind the camera of an interview. I worked in media with a drama professor talking about Shakespeare in the park in about 1995. And the voice was so familiar. Halfway through the interview, I realized it was the photographer from the Haps cha wedding and a Transylvanian Henry Wolf. I recognized his voice from the one line that he had in the movie. I still have the 15th anniversary jacket actually have about $1000 in merch from the late eighties, early nineties. But this one's my favorite. So seeing the 45th anniversary stuff now makes me feel a little old. It should all of us. I saw Tim Curry when he was King Arthur in Spam a lot in New York. He didn't come out back for an autograph. Damn it. I had the chance to be the volunteer handler for the Rocky Horror reunion at Toronto's Fan Expo a few years ago in 2017, but I already had burning man tickets so I couldn't do it. My thought was I might run into Susan Sarandon a burning man. So it might even out. I didn't, but I did go to a showing of Rocky with a shadow cast at Burning Man in 2014 and 2017. It's a weird place to see it, but super fun. And this year I'm not sure who put it on, but I went to Rocky Horror in alt space on V R. It was super fun, sort of like being there, audience theater, hot dogs and toilet paper.

I
heard about that. That seems kind of cool. I was a

part
of Sapiro fan club back in the day. Still have my membership card. He sent me all kinds of photos and papers on it. I had a comedy radio show on community radio for about 15 years called Inside Insanity. Hence the Hotmail address played as much obscure Rocky Horror stuff as I could possibly find. And lastly another near miss, we were booked for a trip to London this spring for a wedding and I had booked a night at Oakley Court. So sad that COVID canceled it for us. Anyway, if you find any of this interesting, let me know and I can elaborate on any of this. I could talk about Rocky Horror forever. It's been a huge part of my life. Thanks for making a great podcast, two absent friends.

That
is such a cute ending.

Oh
, yeah, this is great. I love this. Right. And NASRA. Thank you so much. This is a great letter. I always love talking to people who've been around the community forever because I'm fascinated by all the war stories like this that you can only really accumulate by having been entrenched in all of the Rocky community for decades. I love all of the little tidbits that you have here. I take a look at Creature of the Night pretty much every single week for this show. I've flipped by your photos a dozen times. They definitely ring up.

Imagine
seeing Rocky at Burning Man though. That sounds like a made up thing that, that had to have been totally nuts. Like, was it a million times more insane than a regular show? Yeah.

And
I'm really sorry, your Oakley Court trip got canceled. I hope you get another chance to go when the world stops ending also. I hope I can go. Do you want to go together?

Yeah
. Not me.

Yeah
. No, just Nicky. Nicky and no

N
Os four V R A T U. I don't know how to spell that word. I know that

we
all love to hear the long versions of some of these stories, especially Aaron, like I can hear his dick getting hard all the way across the Hudson River right now. Stop.

I
feel called

out
. You should know. Thank you so much for writing in and sharing with us our answer to you, you and to all of our listeners is that we'd like to offer you a new segment and we're going to call it big dick story time

like
Uncle Barry and those kids.

No
, Nicky, shut the fuck up. Not like that. But to all of our listeners, if you've got a really, really cool story from your time doing Rocky, like something that will make your dick look bigger than mine. We'd love to hear it and share it on our show. If you like, I don't know, went to a crazy Rocky show at Burning Man or if you performed at a really cool venue or you like time warped in front of the queen or whatever the fuck other shenanigans that you could have gotten yourself into. Send them in. We'll read them on air and everyone will know how big your dick

is
snugs. This is the segment for you, buddy. I, I

saw
Barry Bosz's Butt one time. Does, does that

count
? No, Aon, we've all seen Barry Bostick's but literally everyone listening has seen Barry Boswick Butt

counterpoint
. If you've been doing Rocky for more than like an hour and a half and you haven't seen Barry Boss, but that's a total big dick moment and you should tell us about that or like anything else,

anything
else preferably? Yeah,

please
.

And
if you have any other awesome stuff you'd like to share in our community news segment. If you're working on a Rocky related project, you're proud of like Jill and her Instagram account, which I love, by the way or if your cast is planning something fun. We'd love to talk about it here. Just go to our website rocky talky podcast dot com and send us a message. We can't wait to hear from you. Hi, I'm Kelly

and
I'm Leandra and we host Rocky Horror Minute, the podcast where we discuss the Rocky Horror Picture Show in excruciating detail. One minute at a time. We're doing this show to share our love of the lyrics. You've never seen a pro in real life? No. Work with Same with Raisins, right? Our passion for performance. Oh my God. I was like bad knees stupid. Sober attention to detail. I know that everybody's curious. That car is a 1964 Ford Falcon deluxe sedan Ford or 54 D and to unlock secrets that would otherwise be lost to time. Oh, are you asking if I know the name of the Cheetah and why it had such a problem with the snake? Visit us on the web at Rocky Horror minute dot com for more information or look for us on Instagram, Facebook,

Twitter
, youtube or wherever you get your podcasts.

Yeah
. And with that, I think it brings us to everybody's favorite segment. Nicky asks a

question
. Uh Don't you dare put words in my mouth? My favorite is global news.

I
really like, sign off.

I
really love it when the podcast ends. Actually,

I'm
a, I'm a fan of all those bloopers at the end. That's what I'm saying.

Me
too. Check them

out
. Yeah. Honestly shout out to Meg, our producer for adding those bloopers in because they're fucking hysterical. I love hearing how many times I mess up because I feel like 80% of the loopers are me and I can't tell if Meg is like adding me or if it's genuinely me. So like either way, fuck you Meg. Yeah.

Fuck
you. Before we jump in today, we've got a couple of follow ups from last week,

Larry
Viel helped us out with a little more information about the statues from last week's episode, Jill. This one's for

you
. Larry wrote in the Janet statue is owned by the son of a scriptwriter who lived in Spain. Huh? Go figure the way he explained it to me. This is explained to Larry. There was a party when the film wrapped and a lot of stuff was destroyed. The crew that broke down everything painted Janet's pubes and nipples. But the scriptwriter salvaged the statue and gave it to his daughter who was an aspiring artist. She painted it to look like a harlequin and it's been in his kitchen ever since.

Oh
, wow. She's got this painted on top and a mask. It's like a checkerboard pattern and her hair is brown. Well, I'll be damned. It's nice to see that Janet is alive and well,

I
really like the phrase son of a scriptwriter, just like completely separately as like a bleep for a curse, like a son of a scriptwriter.

Oh
, sadly, though Larry was also able to share a photo of the Doctor Scott statue from after filming this one doesn't have such a great story. He doesn't look so lucky. His face is like fully painted black and he's, he's pretty banged up. The photo shows him outside near the trash along with the other set pieces that were destined for the dump, like the Transylvanian Convention sign. So a little bit of good news there. A little bit of bad news. Thanks Larry. We love finding out about this kind of stuff.

Anyone
know where Brad and Rocky ended up two down two to go. So

we've
also got a second follow up on the photo of Columbia holding the egg from last week. Several of you hit us up and let us know that the egg photo is, in fact real and my is out of whack. Is

that
like Photoshop?

Of
course, it is. So you all told us and now we are happy to share the good news. The Columbia photo appears both in the Mick Rock book but also several other sources over the years.

Oh
, yeah. I don't know how I missed this one. It is right there in the Mick Rock Book on page. There's a handful of other photos that are like right there next to it. It's clearly from the same chute. It's Nell standing in front of the gargoyle and yep. There it is standing there with the egg.

Does
that change our verdict on the eggs? I'm still convinced it's an urban legend.

Even
with the photo being completely verified. I'm standing pat. I don't think it provides a ton of new evidence, but I mean, it still leaves the question out there. Right.

Yeah
, I think I'm still hugely skeptical like just because the picture is real does not necessarily mean that they had an Easter egg hunt because like the egg isn't painted, the egg is not decorated. It's just a regular fucking egg. Something tells me that it was just a lunch on set and little nell was just being a fucking weirdo as she usually is. So also little. Now, if you, for some reason, listen to this, I love you, please don't kill me actually, or please kill me. That would be like the greatest way to go out as somebody who's a fan of Rocky. Hard to get murdered by little now. So either way, either don't kill me or do it just shit or get off the pot little now. OK. Thank you all for letting us know we love when you write in and thanks for making sure that we don't commit the cardinal sin of being wrong on the internet. And speaking of sins, we have two writing questions this week, Nikki, you get the pick this time. Eggs or butt sex.

Uh
. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no, no,

no
, no. You heard me eggs or butt sex?

Well
, didn't we just do

eggs
? So you're choosing? But sex?

No
, no. Ok. Eggs. Definitely eggs.

All
righty. Well, our first write in is from red. From the New York City cast. Hey, red. So they write. Ok. Rocky talkie. You talked about eggs and I have another egg related question for y'all. This one might be more of a challenge though. So gird your loins. I don't like how that sounds red. I don't like it either. So unsubscribe, I'm unsubscribing from my own podcast. So I learned recently that professional clowns register their character makeup. There's a collection in London where all the faces are painted on. Get this eggs. Here's a link to a BBC article from 2017 about it. So here's my question to you, Rocky Talkie is Colombia's clown. Make up an egg registered face. I'm excited to hear how you investigate this much love to all of you red. First off, I don't like the phrase egg registered face like I feel like that phrase has never been uttered before. There's definitely a subreddit out there for like phrases that have never been said before. So red find that subreddit and post the phrase egg registered face on it. Secondly, what a cute question I had never heard about this before. So thank you for giving me some education

today
. Me neither. This was a lot of fun to learn about. The clown egg registry serves as a visual database of around 250 painted clown faces all kept on record on either blown or ceramic eggs. The collection is housed in Wookie Hole in Somerset England. The eggs serve as a non legally binding copyright of each individual clown face,

which
if you're following along means that they are not legally anything.

Yeah
, it's just faces on eggs. You're fun. The register is kept by Clowns International, which was started in 1947 and originally known as the International Circus Clowns Club. When it was just a yearly meeting. This once a year gathering was arranged by circus owner Billy Smart for publicity. He would have his circus clowns visit the grave of esteemed clown, Joseph Grimaldi and Lea Wreath. This is a yearly meeting that has been kept alive to today.

Are
you with IC C C

IC
P much motherfucking wicked clown love clown egg. We'll cut that. I hope all y'all listening at home just popped open a two liter go and are spraying it all over your domicile right

now
. C C C. That's my new favorite rap

duo
. So circus enthusiast Stan Bolt saw this yearly gathering and out of it created the International Circus Clown Club which in 1978 became clowns. International membership is open to all types of clowns. Nicky. You're first in line. Oh My God. So the registry of clown eggs is a collection owned by Clowns International. So entry to Clowns International is restricted to working clowns with developed visual identities. Again, Nicky who seek to use a new name, which is a name not already used by a member or associated with a famous clown, new clowns. Clowns under 18 and clowns who aren't performers are not eligible to receive an egg though may be eligible to join Clowns International

for
the record. Both my persona and Colombia's makeup are not on an egg at Wookie Hole. Registration is restricted to working clowns with developed identities within the clown community and individual clowns have to take it upon themselves to register their faces and have their image worked into an egg. There are only about 250 eggs within the collection. And even if Sue Blane submitted the makeup for an egg, it would have been rejected by Clowns International as it isn't connected to an actual clown. Sue Blane

actually
did speak to Jim Whittaker on the subject of Columbia's makeup and costume while he was writing his book, Cosmic Light. Uh That interview is recounted in still the beast is feeding so we can talk about it here because I have that book and I don't have the other book. Uh So Sue Blane said that she designed Columbia's look around. Little Nell's already colorful persona.

I
kept the theme going. She proclaimed, but there was no question. Once you met Nell, you go with what Nell is,

you
can see that a lot in the original stage show costume for Colombia, she was wearing glittering striped trousers. They were like rolled up to mid calf with her socks, socks and sock suspenders. The whole look was meant to evoke the thirties tap dance star, Ruby Keeler. So she wore a glittery waistcoat and it dipped like really low to intentionally expose Nell's rouged up nipples. Uh That's a look that persisted all the way through the show's initial run but was gone. Once the film adaptation was made

good
thing. How would the Annaly screen accurate out there resolve that one?

We
would find a way. Nicky fake nipple technology is very advanced.

See
, I like what you just said there, Aaron because that assumes that someday in the future you will play Columbia. And I despite being on the same cast as you, I will pay for that ticket. Fuck,

fuck
, fuck, fuck,

fuck
. So Sue Blane also recalled that for the stage show, Columbia had outrageous eye makeup which got progressively more elaborate as time went by facial sequins glitter. And of course, Neel's trusty tat shoes finished the look. So basically all of this to say that Columbia is not a

clown
. No, she's a disco ball.

She's
a disco ball,

disco
balls international.

You
can visit the clowns international site as well as sign up to be a part of their organization. At W W W dot clowns international dot

com
. So our second write in is from Rowan, who is my Twitch mod. So shout out to Rowan. I love you. You beautiful bastard. So we had to skip it last week. But I bet all of you will agree that this question is worth the wait. Hey,

Rowan
, let's dig in.

So
I heard a rumor a long time ago that Richard o'brien found Barry Bostwick Hot. Once casting happened from there, he had written in a sex scene between the characters of Riffraff and Brad Majors. This scene was rumored to be filmed as well, but it was cut eventually as it didn't have a place in the story. I personally think that this is completely fake nonetheless. I found it funny and would like to hear your take and your history on it. I'll attach a Reddit thread in which somebody talks about it. They also attach a video of the supposed scene which is just so clearly fake but still absolutely hilarious. It wasn't the first time I've heard this story. Thanks Rowin. This is gonna be dope. So I checked out the link and this was on the subreddit, obscure media. The post has very little discussion but the only real information is in the title and it reads

dubious
deleted scene. 2001, long rumored to be a deleted scene from the 1975 film which did have a deleted riff and Brad sex scene. This video clip was shown at Rocky festivals for decades and is most likely a fabrication concocted for a Rocky Con in 2001.

So
the Vimeo video that the Reddit thread links to was posted by Steve Warwick, a longtime member of the Rocky community about a decade ago. And the description reads in

this
video edited comfortably into a spot just after it touched me is the world famous riff and Brad. But fuck scene, the video and audio quality were both atrocious. So I tried to clean them up as well as I could. Unfortunately, the results still aren't particularly satisfying. So I present this video as is, oh,

so
this isn't the original version of this video. It says that this Steve guy edited it together in 2010 and cleaned it up. Who knows what else he did to it. When we're looking at old source material, we want to have the original version. That's where you see all the cracks and mistakes. Do we have the original? There

is
what we can assume is the original form of this video which was posted on Rocky music dot org. And the description there gives us a little bit more detail,

the
infamous Brad Riff. But fuck scene as revealed at the Frankie goes to Hollywood Con in 2001. This was supposedly filmed for the Rocky Horror Picture Show but not included in the final release. For more details. Consult Arthur Levesque's Brad Riff. But fuck scene fa Q,

I'm
sorry, what? Why is there a full blown frequently asked questions, document about a deleted sex scene?

Ok
. We'll get there, we'll get there. Let's just look at this video first.

It
opens up with a blue V C R playback screen like implying that it was video captured from a V H S tape. We see red curtains in the background pretty similar to Janet's bedroom scene and there's a, a figure lying on a bed. Brad enters and he starts talking Meg cleaned up a bunch of this audio. So take a listen. This is the dialogue that happens,

right
? There's something wrong here. Terribly, terribly wrong. We need to leave here now, right? Want to know where Janet is right now. I should say not. How can I getting upset with me? I am not wrong. Separate on man. Know the time, feeling feelings. I never knew I had things that I shouldn't have and wind up. Not entitled. Certainly not you doing, I'm going to of the you go.

So
at this point, the audio cuts out as if Ben's Brad over on the bed gets behind him, lifts his robe and begins furiously dry humping Brad while still wearing his pants,

you
know, protection,

protection
and I hate

you
. Sorry.

OK
. What in the shitty youtube video was that you can barely hear anything meg has outdone herself to get you guys something listenable but trust me. The original audio on this thing sounds like every single noise filter was turned on and then played back through a tin can. I don't even have to get out my copy of the movie to know that Janet's bedroom scene curtains are more sheer than that. I'm pretty sure that's not Barry Bostwick. And why would it be in this shitty resolution? The whole movie was on film? Shouldn't it be wide screen? This looks like it was taped with my grandpa's camcorder. What I

think
this is trying really hard to do is make you believe that it's a 50 generation V H S tape, right? Something that's been copied over and over and over. Yeah,

that's
the primary way that bootleg videos were shared in the eighties and nineties. If you had deleted scenes or live footage, something recorded off of a TV or anything like that, it was probably on a V H S tape and that tape was probably a copy of a copy of a copy duplicated repeatedly when it was shared from person to person.

Yeah
. And, and that tape probably had warped audio, like way too many scratches to see anything. The color completely blown out. I mean, I've got a handful of really old Rocky bootlegs that are pretty much just that hell,

that
was the only way to get Rocky on tape before 1990. We talked about that saga back in like episode two then. Sure. That's what this video looks like a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a fanmade youtube video.

I
I can't deny it. This thing looks Janky. Maybe the quality is so bad because it's a copy of a copy of footage that was left behind on the cutting room floor. But I'm skeptical skeptical, I'm

John
. So what is this? Why does this even exist? Is it just some slash fan fiction video that was made before youtube? Why would you go through all the effort to make it look like a

bootleg
? Well, this is entertaining because unlike some of the other urban legends that we've talked about on previous episodes, this is an urban legend that has kind of fully run its course already. That video is actually the demon of the whole urban legend story where Riff mounts up on Brad and fully jumps to the shark.

Oh
, so where does it start? What's that FAQ thingy?

So
that FAQ is long since gone? But you can find an archived version of it that has its last update from 2009 hosted in the way back machine on a dot org.

Oh
, wow. This thing basically says it's all real and has a ton of information. It cites sources, it has tons of facts. This looks like a gold mine if we can verify all of this info, who is Arthur Levesque, the guy who researched and put all this together. Is he like your spirit animal Aaron?

Not
quite Arthur has been called the Weird of Rocky Horror

crap
. Is any of this true? It's

dubious
at best Arthur compiled and arranged several years worth of conjecture trolling and honestly nonsense into one huge document. All of it coming from our good old pal the Rocky Horror News group.

OK
. Now we're gonna do a little dramatic reading of some of the selections from the Q and A Nikki. Why don't you ask the questions? And John and I can switch off with the answers

introduction
question, the what

the
infamous Brad Riff. But fuck scene is a scene that was supposedly filmed for the Rocky Horror picture show but not included in the final release. Other supposedly lost scenes like once in a while have since come to light but the Brad Riff but fuck scene remains a rare and rumored collector's item

question
. Where did the Brad Riff? But fuck scene come from

answer
. It wasn't in the shooting script or the play some probably Richard o'brien, but no one is completely sure came up with it during the shoot. It was one of the things that apparently made sense at the time but that everyone involved later to decide was a bad idea.

So
we can confirm that one. Uh It's definitely not in the shooting script

question
.

Why
? According to one source, Richard o'brien was a tad intoxicated and while watching once in a while being shot developed the hots for Barry Bostwick and jumped in to improvise the scene. Bostwick didn't object and Jim Sharman insisted that the cameras keep rolling. Another rumor says that the scene was totally Richard o'brien's idea when he realized Riffraff would do Brad in the movie o'brien wanted an excuse to fuck him. But that's just a rumor. As for Barry, it has been said that this was sort of a rebound thing because he was confused from just breaking up with Susan Sarandon, whether or not he was even aware that the cameras were still rolling is debated. So hold on.

Did
Barry and Susan date?

No
, Barry Boswick and Susan Sarandon never dated b once in a while was not filmed anywhere near the same time that Janet's bedroom scene was filmed. They were days apart.

Question
so Richard o'brien never considered the Brad Riff butt fuck scene when writing the play.

Well
, there's another theory and the Rocky horror scrapbook take a look at the page with, they came from Denton High at the top. Joe Vitus is crossed out and replaced with the character name of Riffraff. Now go to the previous page and look at the song list. It says once in a while, Joe seems that Richard initially thought once in a while it should be sung by Riffraff possibly to Brad to appease him. Maybe this might make the tense of the lyrics make more sense. It could have been meant to lead into the infamous Brad Riff. But fuck

scene
. The only thing that's remotely true in this is that the character of Riff Raff was originally named Joe Vitus in Richard's original notes. Anything beyond that? I don't know, man.

Question
. Is this the Rocky porno video show? I've heard of.

No
, that's a completely different thing, an extremely bad porn movie parody of the Rocky horror picture show. Avoid, avoid, avoid, We talked about that already.

Yeah
. No, don't avoid it. Go listen to episode three. Right?

Question
. How does the scene

go
? So this transcript was posted to alt dot cult movies dot Rocky Horror several years ago. That's, that's the news group that we source everything from. It's an excerpt of a little script here. So, um, I guess John has to be Riff and I have to be Brad Nikki. You want to read these stage directions?

Sure
. There is a knock at Brad's door. Hm. A shadow slowly approaches Brad's bed.

I
see you have tried the specialty of the house.

What


who
Brad turns on lights? Riff is standing over his bed

but
there are rules that have to be followed. But I, I didn't do anything. You've done enough. What are you talking about? You have tasted the sweet nectar of the prince. How, how do you know it's my job and now you must pay for your sins. Magenta and Colombia are otherwise encumbered so that leaves you for what for this, ah,

express
? I don't want to see this one. Riff grabs Brad and flips him over onto the bed unzips himself and starts to penetrate Brad. An evil smile comes across Riff's face. Question, is that really how it goes?

Here's
a description of the scene by someone else. Frank goes after Rocky leaving Brad alone and confused Riff knowing Frank will be gone for a while. Goes to Brad's bedroom. Janet finds Rocky and gets in on with him. What gets on gets on with him. Frank pissed that he has lost. Rocky goes back to Brad just to find him getting in up the ass by. Riff. Riff takes off with Frank and Brad running after him which brings us up to the mercy elevator scene with Frank whipping Riff for not only losing Rocky but also taking Brad. Ok? I mean that makes like some seance of sense, I

guess
makes sense. Whatever question is it nasty?

Uh
The answer here, it's a play on the senses really and doesn't show really anything at all kind of like the bedroom scenes it's done with a lot of shadow play and such no sheet in front. However,

question
what is wearing

his
butler uniform and some sort of fluffy pink slippers. Some say they have bunny faces on them. Others disagree even though that part of the screen is a little blurry. I think that what you are seeing is more of that white fur that is around the sides of the slippers. You can see this most clearly when rich legs fly up as he mounds spread, you can clearly see that the bunny faces have one inch high white fluff spouting from them. This is what really makes me think they are just fluff and not actual bunny

images
as someone who has sat and stared at a lot of costume pictures. The video evidence that we've been provided does not actually show any bunny slippers. So I can neither confirm this nor speak to the accuracy. The screen accuracy of any bunny slippers that you yourself might own at home. So, you know, you're just gonna have to fuck Brad barefoot like a heathen e

question
. Any squidgy details. It

appears
that Richard o'brien has a mole on his right buttock though some say that it's just another plot on the film like the black spot on Janet's statue arm and others say it's a tattoo of a lightning bolt. It can't be seen clearly enough to confirm that their face. Richard o'brien makes while coming has to be seen to be believed.

What
? Apparently somebody saw a version of this that we didn't see clearly.

I
would like

to
see it. I thought you didn't want this to happen.

I
don't, but now you kind of do

right
now. I kind of do. Yeah, that's right. OK. Question who else was involved.

The
answer. Richard supposedly came up with a few lines to be spoken by the criminologist after the scene, it is unknown if they were ever filmed. The only thing I can speak to this is that crim scenes were definitely shot last. So if something completely made up did happen, they would have had time to film some extra dialogue, maybe

question
anyone else. There

does
appear to be someone or the shadow of someone off to the side during that scene. It's probably a mistake just like when you can see the microphone before Da Janet, something gets a Transylvanian but they've all left the castle at this point. Correction. It is not a microphone. It is the lantern that hangs from the top of the church door frame. Apparently all the people who think that this is a mic that accidentally got into the shot are mistaken. Interestingly enough, Richard o'brien himself comments on the DVD that it is a microphone. It seems Richard o'brien does occasionally remember or relate details incorrectly. This may be another reason why some of the information in the scene is incomplete and or contradictory. Oh,

this
is such a self referential pile of garbage to all of the nonsense that was being talked about on the Anyway. Moving on

question
. Are there any references to it in the rest of the

movie
? Answer? No. Uh since it was added during production, not when the script was written, there are no lines in other scenes which refer to the Brad Riff scene specifically, superheroes was written long before the Brad Riff scene was created. So Brad's line about down inside, I'm bleeding has nothing to do with his anal rape. Ok. Once in a while was written before Rocky was even thought up. Richard wrote the song once in a while long before he had penned any of the rest of the movie. So, yes, you are right. It has nothing to do with this scene.

Question
. So what happened to it when

Richard
o'brien was clean and sober, he couldn't believe he'd done it and insisted the scene be removed from the film. It's not true that the scene was simply edited for MP A A rating concerns as some have suggested it was removed long before the film was submitted for a rating

question
. Has Richard o'brien ever spoken about the scene since?

And
the answer is someone asked Richard o'brien about the long lost Brad Riff but Fox scene after a showing of disgracefully yours in New York City. But all he would say is that he hated the scene and hoped that it was gone for good. This has dampened most people's hopes of ever seeing it on future releases.

Giant
fucking citation needed.

I'll
give you a giant citation

question
. Is it

available
? Answer? Not all of the negatives were destroyed. And even though no legitimate release of the Rocky Horror Picture Show contained the scene. It was included in at least one bootleg from China the 10th anniversary laser disk made in Tibet allegedly up until then, it was considered the rarest of rarities and most people denied that it ever existed. Ok. Uh There is no bootleg laser disk from Tibet. That is not a thing. There is no bootleg from China either that also never existed. So good

luck
question. Do any theaters have prints with this scene? The scene

was
only put on a limited number of early promo prints like superheroes. Fox didn't think that the US audiences would take to it. And so the scene was cut from the final release. Superheroes however, was at least kept on the overseas prints. The Brad Riff, but Fox scene was not when Rocky started to get really big in the US. Fox started running out of Princes. They first pulled prints from overseas, which is how we first got superheroes over here and then dug up the original promos too. Only a dozen or so since very few of the original prints promo or first real press are still in use. Finding one at all, let alone one that was still usable would probably be rather hard. Even the theaters that still have mono prints probably have a copy that was struck in the mid eighties around the time frame of the 10th anniversary and not an original one theater that was known to have a copy was the Balboa theater whose marquee is on the 15th anniversary video in Newport Beach. California, the Balboa later got a newer superheroes mono print wore it out in a few years. Picked up a new superhero's stereo print and then closed. Two months later, the cast. Midnight Insanity moved to the art theater in Long Beach, the print with the Brad Riff. But fuck, she was sent back to the distributor and more than likely just cut up and thrown away like most of the old prints.

No
, none of that's true.

Question
. Who else had one

answer
? According to Art Lorry, the Exeter Street theater in Boston had one around 1979. The word is the first print the theater received during its initial run had the Brad Riff butt fuck scene in it. Like with superheroes prints, film link did a poor job then of labeling the film case, but it only ran for one weekend before the film was replaced. We saw it on Saturday. Art said spent the next week trying to choreograph it to be as accurate as possible. And by the time the next Friday rolled around, it was already gone from the theater that Riff and I refer to that week as the week that will never be spoken of. Some have claimed that the print with the seam was not returned. But the projectionist cut most of it out honestly,

out
of all of this shit like being completely true. I believe that because Art Laurie, that man definitely, I cannot tell a lie. Kind of shit like I believe that I really do. Ok. Ok. Shout out to you. Art. I love you.

Question
. Are there any stills or photos from the scene?

Answer
trailers and press kits are often made from dailies while the movie is being made. Uh when the final film is released, many of the scenes you saw on the preview are not there, there was still a photo from the Brad butt fuck scene in an early edition of the press kit for the Rocky Horror picture show. It was intended to be part of the lobby card and still photos set from the film. But when the scene was cut, they also cut it from the press kits before they were released. Apparently a college student working for Fox at the time fished it out of the trash but refuses to make scans or copies of it. Larry Weisel has made several offers to buy it outright for his Iraqi photo site, but so far it has been refused. There are also occasional badly forged pictures on web pages claiming to be stills from the Brad Riff. But Fox scene usually placed there anonymously. These can be easily determined to be false by close inspection. Don't assume that you have true stills or the video from the scene without examining the evidence and the identity of the provider definitely don't pay any money, false videos of the scene surfaced on ebay a while back unless you're sure that you're getting the genuine article at the cir day Rocky convention. Mick Rock would not comment on the Brad of Earth but fuck scene. But he did acknowledge with a sly las grin that there were some photos that he took that he was not going to release. These were for his personal collection and that's fucking gross. Considering what we just talked about last week.

The
press kit for Rocky does not contain any of these. There is no version of the press kit that does contain photos of the scene. It doesn't exist.

Question
is the scene on

DVD
. So the answer here since the Rocky Horror, DVD does have at least one other Easter egg on it. Some people have speculated that the Brad Riff but fuck scene is also hidden somewhere on the DVD. This appears to be wishful thinking as no one yet has come forward to demonstrate its presence. I can personally say this is 100% false. It is not on there. I have ripped every single video off of the DVD, gone through every single file that is both on the DVD and on the Blu Ray. I didn't expect to find it and I didn't find it.

Question
, can I download it?

Answer
. It is not currently available on any web page or FTP site that I know of contact me. If you find it around the time that fox was going after people for distributing the revenge of the old queen script and others were being warned about certain MP threes on their site. One person who did have the scene online received a word from some of Fox lawyers. Apparently someone at Fox and or someone involved with the movie Richard o'brien question mark did not want to see this scene distributed. Another person who wishes to remain nameless claims to have gotten the scene off of Kaza a file sharing program some time ago but has not seen it up there since nor will she make her copy available there for fear of being charged with copyright violations or theft note that Kaza due to lawsuits is no longer a free and uncontrolled file sharing program. Man. You guys remember Kaza? I do

remember
Casa, I was just about to say this still like it says Kaza due to lawsuits is no longer a free and uncontrolled file sharing program. Does Kaza due to lawsuits still even exist?

I
don't, I don't think so.

Question
what do the Rocky Horror fans think?

Most
of those that know about it view it as a part of the movie's history even if they don't consider it cannon that it actually happened in the story because apparently this person has their dick so far up their ass that they had to explain what the word cannon meant for everyone who doesn't know what the, what cannon is.

I
don't know. I thought it was a big thing that shot out a bomb.

Some
are just as glad that it was deleted.

Question
has anything been written about it? There

has
been some fan art based on the scene and Arthur Levesque has written at least one song parody which alludes to it. That's

true
. Question has the Brad Riff. But fuck scene ever been performed as part of a rocky horror show stage performance.

It's
not possible to be completely certain given the number of performances done by small theater groups around the country. Not to mention the number done in foreign countries and other languages. Even if you had the CD of say the South Korean production and it had a full recording of the entire performance like the whole gory story rather than just the songs. Would you be able to tell if they had squeezed in the butt fuck scene if you didn't understand Korean? However, any professional group that puts on the Rocky Heart Pick show is expected to follow the official script provided by Samuel French Incorporated in the US and some other countries and Rocky Hor L T D in Europe, the script has gone through changes since the Rocky Horror Show debuted in 1973. But at no time has it ever contained the Brad Riff? But Fox scene keep in mind that the Brad Riff but Fox scene was created during the filming which came after the play. There is a rumor though that the producers of the 2000 Broadway revival. The Rocky Horror Show Live briefly considered including a Brad Riff scene which although inspired by the legendary movie scene would have probably differed significantly from it in order to shock and surprise audiences, but it never went anywhere. Possibly someone Richard o'brien or Christopher Malcolm. Question mark objected. There is no truth to this rumor, however, that Jared Emick, the original Brad Majors or Raul Esparza Riffraff refused to do the scene. It had already been decided against long before the show was

cast
. Question, why isn't it discussed more on the Rocky Horror News

group
? According to one collector, perhaps it's unfair of us to give away so many details about the Brad Riff. But fuck scene. Part of the thing that makes it so rare is that so few people have seen it. It's just like the revenge of the old Queen's script. Uh Well, not anymore. Uh Many people have never gotten their copies. So we stopped conversation on the news group because it's unfair to those people who missed out on it. It's really easy to find the revenge of the old Queen script. Now, just Google it,

question
, will it ever see the light of day again?

At
the June 2001. Frankie goes to Hollywood convention in Hollywood, California. The audience was shown a clip from the Brad but fuck scene details of how they found the clip and who it belongs to have not yet been divulged an air of secrecy. They expected this to be a surprise surrounded the exhibition. They have received many requests for a copy and promised that they will eventually provide some addendum. Almost three years later, they still haven't released. The Frankie goes to Hollywood Convention videotape, which they promised will contain the Brad Riff Buck buck scene that was shown at the con

question
. Is it true that Brad's verse in superheroes refers to this scene? I mean, I've done a lot. Doesn't make sense. If Brad only had sex once and down inside, I'm bleeding. Could mean that Riff Raff didn't use any k why

answer
the song's superheroes was in the original stage play. So it predates the Brad Riff but fuck scene which like the cannibalism of Eddie was added for the movie. One Rocky fan did an analysis of this scene for a cinema course at Rhode Island College and argued that the scene was added to provide some balance for Riff and Brad's characters. So this is the academic explanation that this person came up with Riff and Magenta are sibling lovers. But Magenta also has gay sex with Columbia, a human allowing Riff to have gay sex with Brad. A human provides some balance and you have to wonder if Riff released Rocky just so he could distract Frank and get his hands on Brad. Why else would he let the creation loose and risk Frank's wrath? Yeah, because Riff isn't just fucking chaotic, chaotic Brad after Janet is seduced into flowered by Frank. She goes on to have sex with Rocky and revels in the experience. The Brad Riff butt fuck scene after Brad is deflowered by Frank allows us to see the negative effect that sex has on Brad. Good God. I hope that you had to repeat the course.

Ok
. So that was a lot. It all sums up to sound like it could totally just be a massive troll.

Yeah
, I think we prove this one has a crazy number of facts that are either easily debunked. They're hears say they're unsubstantiated or they're just flat out wrong. But what's great is that when we trace some of these facts that are listed on the fa Q back to their original source posts on the news group, we can see all of these crazy embellishments and stories that happened over the course of just a couple of years. The reason we see this is because pretty much everyone in the community was using this story as a meme and not as an urban legend. There was the rumored footage of once in a while that proved true. So everybody didn't want to write it all off, but nobody had a problem using it as a meme when they weren't really sure of its validity or extremely skeptical. So it's

not
really an urban legend. We don't know if it's actually true, but probably not. And now it's become mem that makes so much more sense.

It's
not real. But are you

sure
we do have that first hand account from Art Laurie

and
Art Laurie is literally perfect.

Look
at the footage

but
like are you

just
look at it? It is obviously

fake
, but art Laurie is perfect

but
you have no sources.

So
the onus is on the person bringing the claim to prove that it's true. Not on me to debunk your crazy conspiracy theory.

So
it could be

true
. Art Laurie is perfect. Anyway, so the idea of this cut footage was meed out to the nth degree within the community. So was this video even shown at the 2001 convention?

They
did show it? I know that for a fact. Unfortunately, I wasn't personally there. That's about like three years before I started doing Rocky

Year
. I was born. You are

small
.

I
bet some of our listeners were there, head over to our Facebook page and leave us a comment on this week's episode. Let us know how you reacted when you saw the footage for the first time. So, wait, who made the video?

We
reached out to a whole bunch of our sources. We've been in the Rocky community forever and they all sent us the same legal boiler plate. Really weird. Never happened before.

Fuck
what? So this is actually just a big conspiracy.

No
, actually, so OK, don't tell anybody, but I heard that this video was rehearsal footage and that Richard o'brien pulled a black and white striped Easter egg out of Barry's ass at the end of the Uncut version. You know, the one dubbed in Klingon. Have you guys seen that one? I heard they're going to play it at R K 04.

Ok
. That's all the time we have for today, folks. Hey guys, it's Aaron from the future. Don't call this one just yet. Meg and I have done a ton more research and we found even more information about it that we're gonna share on an episode real soon. Stay tuned. We're not done with butt sex yet.

So
before we sign off on this wild episode, we just want to thank everyone who wrote in to us this week, Red, the Pope of Massachusetts, Rowan and Nosferatu. And of course, Aaron's mom, all of you fucking rock, love

you
mom. If you're enjoying the show and want to help us spread the word about it, please take a moment to rate review and subscribe on itunes. It helps make our show more visible to new listeners, which is really the goal with a podcast. Also, we're on Facebook, Instagram and tiktok, all at Rocky Talky podcast. So please go check us out if you like us and want more content and

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us
last, but not least we want to wish all of our listeners a very happy new year. We hope you get to party your hot little asses off just in a safe socially distanced sort of way. If you're seeing other people, please mask up and stay six ft away. If you get 2020 you'd never find out who sins is. And if they make it to the right Dunkin Donuts to meet up to with the Duke of New England and that would be sad as hell because I know we're all dying to find out how that shit goes down.

It
really do be like game of Thrones up in this bitch.

We'll
see you guys next Thursday. Bye.

So
Barry, we hope you had a Merry Christmas. Thanks for keeping your pants on around all those school. I'm not saying that

I'll
do it.

So
the kids of Albany, which is, oh, I start jingling my keys in the middle of that. I don't know why. It's like sometimes when I'm recording the podcast. I don't know what to do with my hands. So I just start like touching things around my desk. Yes. Sometimes I

playing
cards.

John
has been fired from the podcast and will be replaced by a broom with a beard.

Honestly
, I'm honored that you consider me

say
your fucking line. So the kids

see
now I like vinyl because I'm both uncultured. What now you see? I like vinyl because I'm both uncultured. Fuck. I'm adding myself literally making fun of myself right now.

Oh
Yeah. Give us

that
good shit. I don't wanna do this anymore.

How
, how did he touch you? Kind of sins or not? Sins at all?

Not
at all. Tag yourself. I'm kind of sins.

Goddamn
.

All
right friends. Are you ready for our last write

in
? No. Actually, I think we should take a break. Yeah. Hold on. Yeah. I'm gonna just crack. I'm gonna crack a cold one real quick. Sit

back
. Yeah. Just let me know when you're ready.

Yeah
. OK. I think I'm good. I think I'm good. I've had my wine.

OK
? Wait, the cold one was, in fact wine, wine, the canned wine. The future is weird. All right. So uh and my is out of

whack
. I think it would be

and
my shop is out of whack. I said both and meg can choose which one she likes better. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, because it's a, it's an old four chan meme. This looks shoot, I can tell by the pixel I've seen quite a few in my time.

I
have an excuse for that though because Josh won't let me go on four chan.

That's
probably for the best. Yeah, it's pretty bad.

But
yes, you're honored this, this right here, this, this statement you just made.

I'm
quitting.

I'm
quitting. I'm John. Hold on someone in the background. Really just went meow.

Me
too. I also

went
meow. Alrighty. Well, our first write in is circus enthusiast Stan Bolt. I don't know why I stopped there. That was like the end of Stan Bolt. Anyway, so circus is fuck. Why is circus such a hard word to say? Circus, circus, circus, circus, circus? If you, if you say any word more like a lot of times over and over again, it ends up just not being a word,

son
of a

script
of a writer.

Good
thing now, good thing. I don't understand this sentence.

Good
thing.

Well
, they change it.

I
just, how would the an screen accurate out

there
? I think, I think it's supposed to be sarcastic, Nicky

because
it's because I'm saying, you know, uh it was really low to expose Nell's tits. That happened that, that that was the visual thing all through the stage show, but it wasn't in the movie and you're like, oh yeah,

yeah
. Today we learned that Nicky doesn't understand written sarcasm.

Yeah
, I'll just start putting slash s at the end of it.

Mhm
So. Oh boy. OK. What's wrong? Y'all don't like hot Riff Raff Brad majors action.

We're
doing the butt Fox scene. All right, let's do the butt fuck scene. So I checked,

wait
, we're doing the butt fuck scene.

Uh
Yeah,

I'm
gonna have to loop up for that row and it's real tight. Rowan. Fuck. I'm gonna have to loop just audibly. That Rowan can peg me. Oh They're gonna love that. So,

oh
boy

yo
, that was kind of hot. I'm gonna have to show that to Josh and tell him to take notes. I got my brad

costume
. You know what if he needs to take notes, then let him take notes. I got, I got nothing for that for that fella. I got nothing for that fellow whatsoever. Josh, I love you.

I
don't have a grandpa or whatever because my grandparents have embarrassing names.

Um
uh Excuse me,

I
, I, they're embarrassing. They're like baby names.

Uh
Well, what I think, yeah, I just

got
there. I thought you were talking about like your grandparents have embarrassing nudes of themselves as babies.

I
said names.

Oh
I thought that they, no, I was with John. I thought, except I thought that they subscribed to your only fans. Oh my

God
. I was just implying that I call my grandfather Poppy. You guys are weird. You bitches is weird. I'm gonna go brush my teeth.

I
don't like the, the stage direction that says that he unzips himself because it sounds like he's wearing like a full body cost

too
. He might be. He's an alien after all that is valid. Yeah. Question what is wearing

his
, what is he wearing? What are you? She says as she twirls her hair.

Question
any squidgy details. I fucking hate that word. That's a new word that I don't want to ever hear again.

I'm
gonna have to message Josh be like, hey, ask Nicky if she wants to get some squid on, I'm gonna

have
to message me and say, hey, ask Aaron if he wants to get some divorce on later,

get
some divorce on.

Yeah
, babe, you wanna do that today?

That
sounds hot.

Anyway
, any squidgy hurt details.

Um
No, none of that. All right.

I
just read all that for no reason.

No
, no, I just mean none of that's true.

Oh
I was like you go fuck yourself Aaron

last
but not least we want to wish all of our listeners a very happy New Year, a very happy and New Year last but not least we I know sins come back. I miss

you
asshole from New England. It's on fucking sight

bud
. I want somebody to write in so I can insult them. So do that. You could

have
gone after my mom.

Pay
attention to me. Writers pay attention to me

and
that's that son of a preacher man, son of a scriptwriter. He's the son of a scriptwriter.