Show Notes for Episode 78

Episode 78 - Transcript

To Absent Friends


Hi to all you unconventional conventions. Welcome to Rocky Talkie. I'm Jacob. Yeah, I'm Aaron and I'm Meg Word y'all. Now, before we get started with the show, Wiki wiki whack, I'd like to take a moment and ask each other dog. How was your week? Did you get up to anything fun in the? Yes. Yeah, I did. Uh This past weekend I played hooky from our show. We had a show um at Village East that I did not attend and instead I went down to West Virginia and visited my best friend. Uh We went to a party, we went to karaoke. Um But we, we had a really great time. We live far away so we don't get to see each other much. So it was nice to, to get some face time in. What about you, Jacob? Uh This past week I have been really busy um with App Academy. App Academy is like a condensed cram trade school for software development that I recently got into. So I'm super excited about that. I have been hard at work on my visual code terminal doing a lot of ruby right now having a blast. Also I saw my lovely girlfriend Andrea Andrea. I love you. Um Yeah, and you just started with App Academy, right? This is your first, this is my first week. Um It is super intensive even before this week I was doing work, studying for like tests to get in and then once I was in preparing for day one and after day one every day is like 11 hours plus of code. Damn, I mean, awesome. It's going to be really good when you fucking graduate and get that ball or job that fucking money, money, money to Ching Mr crabs in it up over here. Papa. It's ridiculous. So, so part of the process of getting in is you have to have an interview and like, like a regular person interview, there's one technical interview where you uh talk where you do coding problems and prove you can code and there's one regular interview where they just like personality who you are and stuff and you have an admission specialist, they assign to you at the very beginning of the whole thing who's like guides you through everything. And before your interview, you have a meeting with your admission specialist and they tell you like, hey, here's what you should watch out for and here's, you know, what you should do properly uh to be to do the best interview you can. And one thing my admission specialist stressed was like, oh, you know, they're gonna ask, ask you why you want a code, like, like, don't talk about the money. It's like, you know, oh, I know. You know, money is nice but don't, don't, like, don't like, it'll reflect badly if you want the money and it's like, what a goddamn lie we're all living under. If, if we're not admitted, if we don't, they don't know that every single one of us is in those seats for the fucking money. Coding is nice and all. But Jesus Christ is a lot of cash too. How much cash is it sweetie? I don't know. I was writing code for 11 hours for fun. Don't talk about the money. That's such capitalist bullshit. Give me a fucking break. I do my job because I want money. Fuck you. I do Rocky all the time. If I didn't give a shit about money. No, probably not. Aaron, what did you do this past week? I'm sure you got up to a lot of fun, bachelor stuff with Meg out of town. Indeed. While the old ball and chain is often. No, I don't even know where to go with that. Um No, I had uh I had the house myself and since uh since Meg wasn't going to the show this week, I wasn't going to the show this week. So I uh also played hooky from our show. It was OK though, because I had a broadcast of Reefer Madness uh to do on our H P S live this weekend from J C C P. I think we'll talk about that later. That was super fucking fun. No, while Meg was gone, I uh I mostly just went down a youtube rabbit hole about vaudeville for, well, OK, so there's this subreddit that's called our Obscure media, right? And it's mostly just like old videos, weird, you know, like midcentury, you know, kind of lost footage, media kind of stuff. I mean, it's Reddit so it's not really all that lost half of its repost. Um But one thing they have on there was this like Olson and Johnson show from like 1936 I wanna say pre-war and it's them trying to bring a vaudeville show to television that is in turn an adaptation of a movie that was itself an adaptation of an earlier vaudeville show that they had done in the early thirties. Ok. Why does anybody care about this? It, it, it's fascinating to me to watch some of this old kind of vaudeville stuff and see the parallels that it has to kind of modern kind of variety performance to stuff like shadow casting to stuff like, you know, improv shows and drag and burlesque. And anyway, I just went down an absolute rabbit hole of these old videos and had a blast just sitting up watching. I don't know, guys from the thirties make jokes that I had to Wikipedia every five minutes. So, yeah, super exciting. I can, I can hear you guys are so interesting. What? That sounds so cool. Wow. God. Oh my God. I know some of our listeners are hardcore vaudeville stands and are gonna be so popped to hear that because I am popped to hear about all the vaudeville going on in the Ted Will Fierro Household and, oh my God, I just wanna be there Saturday Night Vaudeville. Do you have a favorite? Do you have any recommendations for our listeners who might be interested? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, any of the classic stuff, Abbott and Costello or, you know, like, just, just go on youtube but look for old timey crap. And, you know, there's a surprisingly small amount of documentaries about vaudeville, but there is a good amount of like old footage from the era and it's, it's kind of interesting to when you kind of think about it and realize that all of the footage of it is like the good stuff because none of the bad vaudeville acts ever got recorded, right? They never got put on film because vaudeville's decline was at the same time. That film was on an uptick, right? They didn't really live together for a very long period. So you don't see any of like the average show, you only have videos left of like the good stuff. Um And thinking that this is the good stuff is kind of interesting when you go and look at it because there's some weird fucking shit out there. Well, speaking of weird fucking shit, how about we uh start with the show? What do you guys think? Uh Yeah, I'm actually uh I, I'd love to start the show but I am now curious hearing Aaron say that. What are like, like, what's the biggest takeaway joke that uh wouldn't make sense at all? I don't know. What was the weirdest one you watched? Yeah. Ok. So this is actually, it's not so much the weirdest thing I saw, but it was the most like, aha, oh, interesting moment that I saw. So that uh show that I was talking about at the very beginning, it was called Fireball Fun for All right. It's Olson and Johnson. They're this like, you know, comedic duo. Um they're doing a riff on the movie that they had done called Hell's a Poppin, right? It's based on the stage show. He's a Poppin. Um But anyway, I, so I went and I actually watched the hells of poppin movie that had come out and I didn't realize it until like three quarters of the way through that. If you've ever seen that, like, it's probably the most famous old timey dance video. That's uh all of these black dancers doing the Lindy Hop and it's fucking crazy. It's all the stuff with them flipping all over the place and being flung around and like just, it is one of the craziest things that you've ever seen. It still holds up today as just an amazing dance video and I've seen it a bunch of times before I had absolutely no idea that this was what it was from. Super fucking cool to see it in context. And then to kind of think about the fact that the context was kind of shitty because they, at that point, they couldn't put colored actors and white actors on screen at the same time. Uh Yeah, big goof on that one. But like amazing, amazing technical work on this one. Like it was so cool to see. So anyway, if, if, if you're going to check anything out, go check that bit out because it's like, oh shit, that's why the Lindy Hop is cool. That sounds awesome. It's neat that it was documented that way. I'm curious to watch it myself. What's it? It's the fire or something? He's a pop in. He's from Olson and Johnson. Is it on youtube? Can we link it in our show notes? I had to pay for that fucking thing. Oh, damn. You have to pay for it. You know, I might, I might catch it in the next decade actually. You know what? I think it is on youtube. All right, if I can find it, I'll link it in the show notes. Don't worry about it. I can at least link that dance because I know that that clip of that dance is out there. So. All right. Well, you heard it, the clip, at least if not, the entire thing will be linked in our show notes for anyone who wants to watch. And now that all the, the goosing around is out of the way. First up, let's dive into our first segment, global news. So we here at Rocky Talky would like to extend our warmest wishes to little Nell who just turned 69. Nice, nice, nice. So Laura Elizabeth Campbell was born on May 24th, 1953 to parents Ruth and Ross. Her dad worked as a writer for the Sydney Daily Telegraph and started referring to his daughter in his works as little Nell referencing Charles Dickens story called the Old Curiosity Shop. Dad wrote a family life column and presumably he created the moniker because he just didn't want to dox his kid. However, Nell actually used the name Laura until she was 17 and started going by Sonata or Sony. I imagine that's Sony. No, it's actually Sony Rhymes with Donny. Yeah. And I gave myself this line specifically because I knew that I was the only one who would pronounce it because it said in the bio, Sonny Rhymes with Donny. Yeah. She wasn't called Little Nell by anyone but her dad until the seventies when she moved to Britain with her family. At which point she used it as a stage name as she tried to make it as a dancer. During this time. She worked at boring old day jobs like Hawking Merch at the Kensington market with Freddie Mercury, you know, lame shit like that. Like Freddie Mercury. Freddie Mercury. Yeah. Like Freddie Mercury. Freddie Mercury. She used to make fun of him and say that his belly was pooching up over his jeans. What a queen. So Nell got her big break in 1975. Of course, when she auditioned for the role of our favorite groupie, she reprised a Bizarro version of the role in Shock treatment where she played nurse Ant Long. And after that, the rest is history, Nell signed a recording contract, released singles like stilettos and lipstick and do the swim and showed her wonderful boobies to pretty much anyone with eyeballs myself included in the eighties and nineties, Nell opened up a couple of nightclubs and restaurants that closed down well before any of us, Youngins had a chance to go, but they seemed like they would have been popping a F 95. Nell gave birth to her daughter Matilda who I personally have bought shots for that time. She came to our show. Oh, yeah. To this day, Nell still gets up to all sorts of cool shit. She's got a really, really strong online presence which she uses to keep up with us, her devoted fans and she attends all sorts of virtual conventions in rock events with Tim Pat and Uncle Bear Bear. She's also got a cameo account and according to her site is planning on coming back stateside really soon to start attending events I R L and we'd be remiss if we forgot to mention Nell adores her Instagram account and posts pretty much daily. Just a few days ago, she posted a whole bunch of childhood pictures along with the caption. Many of you have written in requesting photographic proof of my idyllic childhood. So here are a few glimpses. I was seven, Patrick 10 and Sally 13 when Cressida was born. Hence only appearing in the later photos. We were thrilled to have a new sibling and used to beg to be the one to hold her. Our maternal grandmother mps is doing just that in the last photo. Dad was 45 when we got our first car, a holden and Sal's Pal Clarissa poses with us in the dressing up box outfits. Let me know if you would like to see more of life at Oxalis Cottage. I uh I was staring off into space for a second there when I came back into focus. I was thinking man, Aaron's life sounds very different from what I thought his childhood was. Yeah. Uh I guess her birthday is making her a little nostalgic. They're super cute pictures. You should go take a look if you want to see adorable baby nell rolling with the homies. No word yet on how Nell will be celebrating her birthday today. But uh knowing her, we're sure to get some photos of her birthday festivities very soon. So, stay tuned for those happy birthday. Now, we hope you get to eat some delicious cake and get all the presents on your Amazon wish list. And of course, if you'd like to check out any of Nell's online presences, we've got a link for you in our show notes. Next up in global news, we've got an update on the Craig mclaughlin trial. Oh God, know. It's actually kind of a good one for those of our listeners who may not know absolute piece of human refuse. Craig mclaughlin played Franken Furter for several years during the Australian tour of the Rocky Horror Show. Recently, five of his former co stars and one crew member filed formal allegations against Craig claiming that he had committed extremely overt sexual assault against them sometimes even while they were on stage together in the middle of performances. In total 11 women testified against Craig back in 2020 an Australian magistrate was forced to drop the charges against Craig on the grounds that there simply wasn't enough evidence to prove sexual assault brought forth by his co stars in the decision. The magistrate lament that although the women were brave and honest, there simply wasn't enough proof to rule that the incidents amounted to sexual assault after he was freed. Craig immediately filed a defamation lawsuit against one of his accusers, Whelan Brown, as well as the Sydney Morning Herald for spreading falsehoods against him. This past Friday. Craig went public about the fact that he had applied for leave to abandon the case. Although his rep was sure to remind the media that he actually preferred the term not proceeding with the case. You know, because it would be such a shame if everyone thought he was a little pussy ass quitter. Can you imagine the fucking audacity anyway? So under the terms of Craig's little baby back bitch decision to quit like a quitter because he knew he had no case and just wanted to scare people with bullshit. Craig was ordered to pay the defendant's legal costs which amount to roughly $2.2 million or approximately 800 Frank Jackets. He's also barred from bringing any further court proceedings over the alleged defamation $2.2 million a in a completely unrelated news story, Craig mclaughlin just sold his apartment for $1.4 million 200,000 dollars under what he was asking for it a few months ago. Wonder why a little short on cash. Craig. Huh? So in response to Craig's complete bitch out Whelan Brown made the following statement, we came forward for no other reason than to protect the women performing in the 2018 production of the show. So they didn't have to endure the same behavior that we did in 2014. That was our only intention she goes on. I was then singled out and sued for defamation. My name was dragged through the mud and my character and own behavior was exaggerated and called into question. The past 4.5 years have significantly traumatized me and the other brave women who spoke up at the time. And afterwards, I am pleased this claim has been withdrawn and I look forward to moving on with my life. I hope this is a reminder that women will stand up for themselves and each other, even when threatened by those more powerful. We here at Rocky Talky would like to extend the warmest of fist bumps to Whelan. The other 10 women who testified against Craig and the journalists at the Sydney Morning, Herald. We hope that you're all able to move forward with your lives without the weight of this trash bag dragging you down. If you'd like to read more about the case, we've got the Sydney Morning Herald rundown linked for you in our show notes. Can you imagine having the fucking balls to fucking sue a newspaper for writing the news? Right? Can I just, it makes me so mad. I didn't want to go read enough about it for like why he decided to drop it. Now, I assume something like, I mean, obviously something completely damning to his case came out. So like, yeah, I don't know what it was. Those photos were just leaked. So that was like a thing or it might have just been the money because who the fuck is going to rule that you can sue a newspaper for defamation for writing about a suit like he shot himself in the foot anyway. And with that, let's kick it on over to some community news can look. All right guys, first up in community news, I want to give a quick recap for last week's broadcast on our H P S live from the Junior Chamber of Commerce players out in Pittsburgh of their fantastic performance of Reefer Madness that happened earlier this month. So if you missed it, well, you suck. It was fucking awesome. There was a fantastic video of the performance that uh Kelsey over at J C C P uh slapped together and uh I was super happy to get to broadcast it. Um Ton of fun. Absolute ton of fun. Everybody was so fucking awesome. There was a million performers on stage because you know, it's J C C P. They got a million people and like the amount of effort that goes into doing Reefer Madness just leaves my jaw on the floor every single time I see it and it's not, it's not just the stuff that you would expect. It's not just that like, oh yes, they put 18 people on stage to do a dance number. Oh yes, everybody has perfectly screen accurate blocking for nearly everything. No, it's all the little stuff that they do because like the show isn't hard enough already. So let's make sure we do all of the pop ups that happen during in the orgy. Oh, there's already too many characters but you know, we really need somebody to play the clams. I, I, what does does, does, does your, does your shadow cast out there not own a giant nine ft tall cross that Jesus can come in on because J C C P does. What? Like what the fuck is this? Every single thing is ridiculous and I am so here for it. I, I was blown away. Costumes were amazing. Choreography was amazing. Everybody did a great job. Um The only criticism that I have um In Mary Jane Mary Lane, your, your choreography was absolutely perfect. However, I will note and that Christian Campbell when he throws a rock at, at Mary's window throws left-handed because Christian Campbell is left handed. And the only reason I know that is because I had to practice it for like three hours when we did it so that I wouldn't throw like a little bitch because I'm right handed. So what I'm hearing is it was ruined. Oh, absolutely destroyed by one infants small but yet critical piece of chore. No, of course, it wasn't, it was fucking amazing. Everything was fucking amazing. This was such a good show. I know neither one of you guys got to see it uh Because you were off doing, you know, whatever it is you guys do. Uh I still have the video for it. So absolutely we're gonna do a watch party for it. Like you guys got to see this. It is so cool and just makes me want to do fucking Reefer madness. Can we do reefer madness here we can, right? I, we, nobody is stopping us. Nobody is saying no, it, it might be something that has been on the forefront of my brain. I would absolutely love to do reefer madness. I feel like everyone always talks about doing fun. Non rocky shadow casts, but it's like it's never gonna happen because we're too busy doing other shit. Like, ever since I've been around, there's been talk of non rocky shadow casts but I have not, I have not seen that put into action once, ok? You weren't here last week when we had Mick on air, the amount of fucking work that it takes to put on a non rocky shadow cast is astronomical. Like they were telling us about all the prep work that they have to do and they have like slides and slides and slides of blocking notes for everyone and something like 100 and 20 pages or something. Absolutely ridiculous. And you have to do all of the rehearsals and you have to have like there's like almost 40 people in Ready for madness. So you got to have a cast of 40 or to have people like tripling up on rolls. So it's not exactly a walk in the park. It's fine. Don't have 40 people just do 18 costume changes. Oh, yeah. I'm not, I'm not slighting us for not having done it. I'm just saying it's, it's a very nice in theory, sort of thing. But, uh, I'm not putting my money in that camp. So, what you, you gotta remember talking about shadow casting shows that aren't Rocky is probably like the number four favorite thing for people on Rocky Cast to talk about. Yeah. It's like our national pastime and, and number three is not following through on anything that they talk about. So, and number two is wearing vertical stripes. You know, you know what, what would be fun and what would build from the already built in knowledge base of our shadow casters, the built in knowledge base of having done Rocky. So it would be easier to shadow cast one of the Rocky pornos because those already mimic Rocky horror. So to shadow cast, one of those, I feel like that just as easy as Rocky Horr. So if we wanna branch out, that's where I'd go first. That really shows you aren't familiar with the choreography and the pornos. Yeah. There's a lot of people there like there's more people in the 2011 porno than there are in reefer madness by a wide margin. Dibs on run. Jeremy. I get to fall asleep during the show. Yeah. What if we did like a porno community watch party on our H P S live? Would you guys be into that. I am not broadcasting smut, even if it is rocky smut like a virtual circle trick. You know, that's like my Friday nights already. You know, I could do it to a different uh Zoom call though. That'd be fun. I will cut out all of the actual porn. You could blur it like in that uh my God. All right listeners get in touch with us. Would you be in for a virtual rocky horror picture show watch party on R H P S live? Let us know if we can peer pressure Aaron into it, we might be able to make it happen. I own the percent chance that this ever happens. I have access to the streaming platform. It lives in my home. You know, the number one thing about pornography producers, they're litigious. We're not charging for it. They can't prove damages. One thing I learned from Craig mclaughlin, I know we, we can do it but be ready for that Zoom to be full of very, very sad people because I don't think anyone who's happy with themselves is showing up to the Rocky horror porno Zoom watch party challenge accepted right into us. Listeners. Are you happy with yourself? Would you attend this party? Let's prove Jacob wrong. Let's not next up. What do we got Jacob next up. A K O has announced its pride month show tour schedule which will be an absolute breath of fresh air after two years of almost exclusively driving performances throughout June. Providence's Illuminated Pride Parade will be held on Saturday, June 18th. And in preparation, A K O has booked eight pride themed shows all throughout New England leading up to the big event. This includes a whole bunch of Rocky shows in Rhode Island and Connecticut. Plus one extra special showing of Hedwig and The Angry Inch, which will be held on June 4th at a venue called A S 2 20 in A S 2 20 will also be hosting a performance of Rocky on Friday. June 17th. Hedwig is going to be directed by a friend of the show, Justin and will be such a delightful little preview for the Hedwig Show that we'll all get to experience together at A K 04. The Pride Tour festivities will run through Saturday, June 25th. The final show of the tour will take place at Moonrise Cinemas in Plymouth, Massachusetts. I mean, we're gonna go to that. It's gonna be fun. I, I absolutely cannot wait to take part in R C Os big pride parade and all of the shit that's going on. Jacob. Did you ever get to be part of one of the pride parades here in New York? Uh I have been to a pride parade. Yeah, I was in, I think last year's pride parade in N Y C. It was uh it was a tiny one for us for the Rock, for our shadow cast. I think there was like seven or eight other people from the cast. Um But it was COVID and I didn't have a lot going on. So I was like, you know what, why not, why not give the gays what they want? And so I donned on my Eddie costume and my fucking sexy leather vest and hit the blazing hot in New York City streets and showed a little skin. You love it. Did you have a great time? Um It was just walking. You know, there wasn't much to love or hate. It was just like a nice little, a nice little walk. Yeah, I, I guess maybe there's supposed to be other cool stuff that happens. But, but I just felt like it was, uh, it was a walk. I brought my scooter because I was in my, in my Eddie costume and I'm scooter, Eddie. So I got to scooter when I got too tired of walking. So that was, that was pretty cool. I don't know, I didn't, I didn't have any emotional connection or, or do anything. Really? Wow. Wow. For the, for the, uh, podcast to share sorry audience in fairness last year's pride parade. Um, as I recall was put on like, they orchestrated it in like two days, the pride marshals got in touch with me 36 hours or something stupid before the parade was supposed to be on. It was like, like 10 pm on a Friday night. And they were like, hey, we're going to do a parade. It's going to be Sunday morning. Does N Y C or H P S want to be involved. And I was like, oh, fuck. And we were in the middle of moving so we like, couldn't come. But we ended up wrangling together a full cast who went and marched and we had all the characters there, everyone was in costume and it was smaller because I think the, it wasn't advertised and it was so quickly put together, but it sounded like everyone had a pretty good time. I remember there was one time that we were stopped and everyone was doing the time warp and I had no idea what was going on. And I still like, I'm terrible about knowing how to fucking time warp. And I didn't know. So I was just like in a, in the middle of a bunch of people dancing for the camera just, just doing nothing like dick in my hand standing on my scooter. I felt so stupid and so bad because I was like ruining the, the shadow cast shot. I'm sure you did a great job. Sweetie. You, you don't really go to parades much, right? No, I did the first Pride Parade when I joined the New York cast. I'm pretty sure I already told this story back when we actually talked about last year's Pride parade. But that was what, 60 some episodes ago. So I'll tell the story again. I was living in hell's kitchen, uh which was just a few blocks from like where the parade was kicking off that year. And my dumb ass had volunteered my apartment for pre getting ready festivities, all that kind of stuff. And the most distinctive thing I remember is that like, I had volunteered the space and at some point when I had talked about, I was like, yeah, and you know, guys come over like, and get ready and like, I'll have beer. It'll be cool. Whatever. Now my dumb ass was like, ha ha Lol. I can say that because it's gonna be like nine o'clock in the morning. Who's gonna want a beer at nine o'clock in the morning? Well, you know who's gonna want a beer at nine o'clock in the morning at the New York City Rocky horror picture show cast? Because I remember Tom Ameci walks in my front door and this is before Tom was running the New York City cast. So cast member Tom Ameci walks in my front door and goes, all right, Aaron, where's the beer? And I go what? He's like you said there was beer and I'm like, it's nine in the morning and he's like, yeah, and I was like, I'm going to the store, that's, that's where the beer is. So 19 year old Aaron went and bought beer at the corner bodega uh to kick off the 5 2006, New York City Pride Parade. It was pride. You're allowed to sell beer to underage Children on pride. I don't think that's how that works. Well, if you are interested in checking out any of R K Os pride shows, tickets for all the events are on sale now and you can visit them on the cast website at R K O army dot com. All right. And this week we've got a special treat for you guys. We have a write in title The Disquiet in the Modern Succubi. Oh Jacob, I'm sorry, that's not the title. That's the writer. That's the person who sent this. That makes a lot more sense because it's at the header of the thing and there wasn't a writer, I'm, I'm a dumb, dumb also. Um I, I want to point out it's um the disquiet in the modern subconscious, you know, I actually picked up on that, but I made a snap judgment as a writer. I was like, oh the, the disquiet in the modern subconscious. That sounds like the title of an essay. It's like on the fucking, you know, the modern world and shit. But the disquiet in the modern succubus, what the fuck is that? Who knows? That's a mystery that's like, that's, that's gonna have our readers hooked and waiting to hear like what happens in the story, the disquiet in the modern flip culture. Like I don't, I'm not, that doesn't, you know, I'm not interested, man. Well, if you want, what the fuck, I think we should keep going with this right in. Yeah. Honestly, good, good directorial choice for the rest of this fucking thing. All right. So this write in comes from writer the disquiet in the modern subconscious and here is what he wrote. Hi Rocky Talky, longtime writer, first time listener, I know you can see these, your inbox can't be that full and I send enough of them the injury I sustained at your Halloween show in 2003. The only way I can cope is to relive my trauma through the lens of my trauma in many, many ways, signed the disquiet in the modern subconscious, right? So, um not much of a right in there, but uh Mr Modern Succubus has gone ahead and uh sent us a little script here that uh I think he wants us to read. So it looks like there's a couple of parts here and I see some Brad and Janet stuff. So, do you guys wanna wanna play Brad and Janet for this one? I don't see anything called Brad and Janet, but sure, Janet, I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, ok. Well, I'll, I'll read the rest of the stage directions and there might be, there might be something else in here. I've got to do but uh, oh, I see. I see now. Ok. Uh I stand corrected. So Brand and Jam pack their car into the space 30 miles away is a crashed car and a dead hymn. So I'll be Jamet and Jacob can be brand. I'll be brand. All right. Oh, Brand. I wonder what could have happened to him. Don't worry, Jamet. I had him taken care of. Oh, Brad, do you mean? Yes, Jamet. I had them taken care of. Oh, Brad, do you mean you killed them? No, Jamet. I simply had someone killed them, Brad. You can't just have horrible things done to people you don't like? Well, I'll tell you what. If I had left him alone, he would be parked right here. Now, are we to find a new parking space? Besides? You haven't even heard the Viars of the horrible things yet, Brad. Did you play again? Well, Janet, I did nothing besides say a few harmless words to a few harmful people. His skin looks mostly intact. Oh, good. It works on at least the bottom 30th that it works. Oh, good. It works on at least the bottom 30th percentile. It's raining. No, no, Janet. I'm referring to the graphs as you clearly cannot see for you are an I basil. The doctor has used very small needles with very fine thread to sew skin back to him once he was dead. You played again, didn't you? Oh, Brad. But now we have a parking spot near the castle where we might run into it. Perhaps an alien. Hello? I am here also. Hello. Hello, I am Richard O Bernstein and I approve of those bad things you don't like, like if someone were to cully play many such people are ended that way. Now say good night bitch because you end today. Push, push. Ah, hey, so, no, no, I mean, it, it just says violent ex emoji. And I took that to mean he was giving the actor permission to do the death and that's what I Yeah. No good, good, good uh good improv there. Yeah. You liked him? He liked you. I lied when I said I did not torture that man. Ha ha ha ha ha and seen well felt a little bit like a robot chicken segment. Felt a little bit like I was having a strong Yes, I like that at the beginning in the first stage direction, the characters were clarified as Brand and jam it. And through the entire script, Janet was jam it, there was just jam it and no one else but Brand was nowhere to be found. The whole script. It was Brad. So interesting. There's some message there about something I don't get because I'm not a theater type. You know, you're, you're probably right. I liked Richard O Bernstein. I am Richard O Bernstein and I approve of those bad things you don't like. I love it. That's great. I'm gonna use that in my life. So, did you have any thoughts? I'm looking up the email address for Bellevue hospital just gonna, just gonna, just gonna forward this one right on over. They'll know what to do with it or possibly the police, but I don't think they'd do anything. So Bellevue might be this, this the best hope for this. This is, this is a, this is a beef I have. We are reading through this and there's a line Meg said uh like if someone were to cully filet and Aaron corrected her, Aaron was like, it's vili and then Meg took it again and I looked it up. It's not a fucking word. There is a make believe word in this script, Meg pronounced and Aaron was like, no, you, you mispronounced the make believe word. M so uh yeah, get off your horse. Aaron in his defense. I pronounced a non make believe word, I pronounced that make believe word as a real word. And um it wasn't, it wasn't, that was my small I bezel brain. Don't be an embezzle ibe. Yeah, for those of you who aren't staring at this script, uh The word is spelled I M B A S E A L. So I'm bail, which I believe is to be pronounced. You know, I feel like we did a pretty good job with this script seeing is it was a cold read and we clearly don't think the way that this writer um does. But uh thank you the disquiet in our modern subconscious. Thank you. For sending this our way and we hope that you um continue to write in do that. Yeah, this was, this was, this was good. This was fun. Thank you, Mr Suki. If you really like listening to that and you've got your own Rocky I ideas and you've thought about what if I could put words into the mouth of Janet or Frank or Rocky or Brad or anyone? Uh Please dear God write a script. Send it to us. That was the most fun I have had since I was in kindergarten and did that like rainbow thing with the I don't even fucking know but it was fun. I had a, I had a rainbow. Yeah, like you, you everyone, it was like a circle. Everyone grabbed it and you like flung it up and then ran inside and then ran back out. I like I like doing the popcorn balls thing, right? Where they put the balls in the middle of it and you pop them all up in the air childhood. So yeah, please do that. We will, we can't pay you money because that's just not how it works. But we'll, we'll say you got a big penis. OK? Yeah. Uh Fucking modern Chucky clearly has a huge magnet. Oh my God. It's bigger than my fucking foot. Jesus. I was gonna have sex with it. But then I was like, no, I'm gonna lose my asshole. I'm gonna lose my asshole, my intestines. Are gonna fall out. Jacob, you've gotta hold yourself back for, for reference, Jacob wears size four women, so I do not wear a size four women's shoes. Thank you very much. And if any of our listeners uh want to write in, it doesn't have to be fan fixed scripts. It could be any cool shit that you're doing that you're working on that, your cast is working on that you want us to talk about on air, send us an email to Rocky Talkie podcast at gmail dot com and you too can have the most magnum of all the dons. And with that, let's move on to our next segment, Jacking it with Jacob, right? Everybody. Let's get down to it. Jacking it with Jacob. Sorry, Jacob, you're gonna have to go jerk it in the corner by yourself because I think we're gonna take this one. So today I want to take this segment and I'm gonna be an absolutely devastating downer. I'm sorry in advance out there guys. But, but this one hit so close to home on May 19th community legend, William Steven Brennan passed away at the age of 57. You all knew him as Bill many on the New York City cast and in the wider community knew him as Uncle Bill, a title that was lovingly bestowed by those he welcomed to the Rocky community throughout his over 30 year tenure, Bill first saw Rocky Horror on his 15th birthday in 1980 he joined the Linden New Jersey cast the very next night, the week after he attended his first showing of the Rocky Horror Picture Show at New York's Eighth Street Playhouse and joined that cast as well in his younger years, he was a riff raff. And as time went on, he put his own amazing spin on everyone's favorite ex delivery boy, Eddie and Mr None himself, the criminologist for 20 years, Bill performed nonstop with the New York City cast. In that time, he was the New York casts, most prolific promoter. He flied the town with ads for the one and only New York City cast. He also produced many of the fantastic Rocky horror events at nightclubs all over Manhattan in the late eighties all the way through to the early two thousands. And these are iconic clubs that many of you out there would recognize the limelight, the palladium, the Hellfire Club Webster Hall, the Roxy and many, many more. And these weren't just your run of the mill shadow casts. These were live shows without the movie and performed to the original Roxy soundtrack. They were a unique and groundbreaking concept, bringing Rocky Horror out of the movie theater and into the heart of the New York nightlife. Bill's dedication to Rocky everywhere it could find an audience was years ahead of its time and he pioneered a formula that the community has only recently come to embrace Bill hung up. His weekly fish nets in the early two thousands after 20 years of weekly performances. But his love for Rocky certainly didn't stop when he stepped out of the spotlight. He continued to guest perform with the New York City cast and attend community events as often as he could. Many New York cast members performing today still recall with excitement. The moment that they finally got to meet the legendary Bill Brennan. Bill's second Love was Shock Treatment and he loved playing Bert Schnick. Most of all he helped, he run the National Shock Treatment Convention cast and he was a staple at New York's shock treatment performances. He was even the vice president of the Shock Treatment fan club. You can hear Bill alongside Madman Mike doing the official commentary on the shock treatment DVD in 1995 just in time for Rocky Horror's 20th anniversary Bill started the crazed imaginations fan scene in the very first issue. His editorial reads first and foremost, the writers, artists and layout persons are going to try our hardest to make sure that this will be a universal magazine that is a magazine that Rocky Horror picture Show fans from New York to California. Great Britain to Mexico can pick up and enjoy equally. I'm sure he couldn't have foreseen it in 1995. But crazed imaginations would go on to be the longest running Rocky Horror fan publication and was cherished by the entire community in the early days, Bill wrote the editorials that introduced every issue. He also wrote quite a selection of fan fiction community updates and many, many articles he handed off the reigns of crazed to Ruth Fink Winter in 1998 but continued to write the occasional piece throughout the publication's eventual conclusion. In 2006, it truly was a universal magazine that was enjoyed by fans all over the world. Bill also appeared in Sapiro book Creatures of the Night Two in 1995 and appeared in V H One's 20th anniversary Halloween special as Bert Schnick in 1998 Bill helped arrange for little Nell to appear at the New York City Convention. And again, he helped wrangle the star for the 2000 Allentown Con at conventions. Bill was always the life of the party. If you somehow haven't heard the story, ask Mad Man Mike about the fat drunk guy in the baby crib. It's a story from Megan Tabor's 1996 Rocky Con. No, Bill is not the guy in the crib or you know, maybe just find me at R K 04. I wasn't there and I sure as hell can't tell the story as well as Bill or Mad Man. But if you ask, I'll, I'll do my best for his lifelong commitment to the community. Bill was honored in October of 1999 at the El Fishnet Fiesta Convention in Tucson Arizona with the Rocky Horror community's highest distinction, the Boss Award becoming the fourth ever recipient. Bill's passing is truly an unexpected blow to all that knew him. Our sincere condolences go out to his wife, Adama and his entire family, both nuclear and chosen in the third issue of crazed imaginations. Bill wrote a very touching editorial about the passing of Patricia Quinn's late husband and I think he can wrap this up better than we can. Bill wrote. I'm not sure I have the right words or even if there are right words for what I'm trying to communicate. But Rocky Horror certainly has strong parallels to real life. It's not just pictures on a screen, at least not to me and a few 100 of my closest friends, it's more, it's even more than real life at times because each week, Frank and Brad and Janet are back lost in the rain at the castle, doing the time warp and learning about each other and themselves. Kind of like the picture show called Life that we all star in each day of our lives. And there's a lesson to be learned in Rocky Horror, a different lesson for each of us. If we only look, listen and feel hard enough lessons in life, lessons in love and lessons and endings and in new beginnings more. So I think, how about you? Any thoughts I'd like to know? So, from all of us here at Rocky Talky, thank you, Bill. You're an inspiration to all of us and you will be deeply, deeply missed, two absent friends, two absent friends, two absent friends. We'll talk to you all next week. Bye. Brand and Jam. Pack their car into the space. 30 miles away is a crashed car and a dead hymn. So I'll be Janet and Jacob can be Brand. I'll be Brand. All right. Oh, Brand, I wonder. Oh, Brad. I wonder what could have happened to him. Don't worry, Jamet, I had him taken care of. Oh, Brad, do you mean? Yes, Jamet. I had them taken care of. Oh Brad. Do you mean you killed them? No, Jamet. I simply had someone killed them, Brad. You can't just have horrible things done to people. You don't like. Well, I'll tell you what if I had left him alone, he would be parked right here. Now, are we to find a new parking space besides? You haven't even heard the Viars of the horrible things yet, Brad? Did you play again? Well, jam it, I did nothing besides say a few harmless words to myself. Nope. Say a few harmless words to a few harmful people. His skin looks mostly intact. Oh, good. It works on at least the bottom 30th that it works. Oh, oh, good. It works on at least the bottom thirtiesth. Fucking cock sucking, fuck dicks. Oh oh good. 30th 30th. Uh OK. Oh good. It works on at least the bottom 30th. Get fucked. Percentile Aaron. You're gonna have to clean that up. I'm not thirsty. It's raining. No, no, Janet. I'm referring to the graphs as you can clearly see. Nope, as you, as you clearly cannot see for you are an I basal. The doctor has used very small needles with very fine thread to sew skin back to him once he was dead. You played again, didn't you? Oh, Brad. But now we have a parking spot near the castle where we might run into a, perhaps an alien. Hello. I am here also. Hello. Hello, I am Richard O Bernstein. And I approve of those bad things. You don't like, like if someone were to vehicular, like if someone were to vehicular play, it's, it's, but ok, like if someone were to vile, many such people are ended that way. Now say good night bitch because you end today. Ah, hey, something. Oh, I mean, it, it just says violent ex emoji and I took that to mean he was giving the actor permission to do the death and that's what I, yeah. No. Good, good, good, uh, good improv there. Yeah, I thought you liked him. He liked you. I lied when I said I did not torture that man. Ha ha ha ha ha. And seen, well, um.
Hi to all you unconventional conventions. Welcome to Rocky Talkie. I'm Jacob. Yeah,

I'm
Aaron

and
I'm Meg

Word
y'all. Now, before we get started with the show, Wiki wiki whack, I'd like to take a moment and ask each other dog. How was your week? Did you get up to anything fun in the?

Yes
. Yeah, I did. Uh This past weekend I played hooky from our show. We had a show um at Village East that I did not attend and instead I went down to West Virginia and visited my best friend. Uh We went to a party, we went to karaoke. Um But we, we had a really great time. We live far away so we don't get to see each other much. So it was nice to, to get some face time in. What about you, Jacob?

Uh
This past week I have been really busy um with App Academy. App Academy is like a condensed cram trade school for software development that I recently got into. So I'm super excited about that. I have been hard at work on my visual code terminal doing a lot of ruby right now having a blast. Also I saw my lovely girlfriend Andrea Andrea. I love you. Um

Yeah
, and you just started with App Academy, right? This is your first,

this
is my first week. Um It is super intensive even before this week I was doing work, studying for like tests to get in and then once I was in preparing for day one and after day one every day is like 11 hours plus of code.

Damn
, I mean, awesome. It's going to be really good when you fucking graduate and get that ball or job

that
fucking money, money, money to Ching Mr crabs in it up over here. Papa. It's ridiculous. So, so part of the process of getting in is you have to have an interview and like, like a regular person interview, there's one technical interview where you uh talk where you do coding problems and prove you can code and there's one regular interview where they just like personality who you are and stuff and you have an admission specialist, they assign to you at the very beginning of the whole thing who's like guides you through everything. And before your interview, you have a meeting with your admission specialist and they tell you like, hey, here's what you should watch out for and here's, you know, what you should do properly uh to be to do the best interview you can. And one thing my admission specialist stressed was like, oh, you know, they're gonna ask, ask you why you want a code, like, like, don't talk about the money. It's like, you know, oh, I know. You know, money is nice but don't, don't, like, don't like, it'll reflect badly if you want the money and it's like, what a goddamn lie we're all living under. If, if we're not admitted, if we don't, they don't know that every single one of us is in those seats for the fucking money. Coding is nice and all. But Jesus Christ is a lot of cash too.

How
much cash is it sweetie? I don't

know
. I was writing code for 11 hours for fun. Don't

talk
about the money. That's such capitalist bullshit. Give me a fucking break. I do my job because I want money. Fuck you.

I
do Rocky all the time. If I didn't give a shit about money. No, probably not.

Aaron
, what did you do this past week? I'm sure you got up to a lot of fun, bachelor stuff with Meg out of

town
. Indeed. While the old ball and chain is often. No, I don't even know where to go with that. Um No, I had uh I had the house myself and since uh since Meg wasn't going to the show this week, I wasn't going to the show this week. So I uh also played hooky from our show. It was OK though, because I had a broadcast of Reefer Madness uh to do on our H P S live this weekend from J C C P. I think we'll talk about that later. That was super fucking fun. No, while Meg was gone, I uh I mostly just went down a youtube rabbit hole about vaudeville for, well, OK, so there's this subreddit that's called our Obscure media, right? And it's mostly just like old videos, weird, you know, like midcentury, you know, kind of lost footage, media kind of stuff. I mean, it's Reddit so it's not really all that lost half of its repost. Um But one thing they have on there was this like Olson and Johnson show from like 1936 I wanna say pre-war and it's them trying to bring a vaudeville show to television that is in turn an adaptation of a movie that was itself an adaptation of an earlier vaudeville show that they had done in the early thirties. Ok. Why does anybody care about this? It, it, it's fascinating to me to watch some of this old kind of vaudeville stuff and see the parallels that it has to kind of modern kind of variety performance to stuff like shadow casting to stuff like, you know, improv shows and drag and burlesque. And anyway, I just went down an absolute rabbit hole of these old videos and had a blast just sitting up watching. I don't know, guys from the thirties make jokes that I had to Wikipedia every five minutes. So, yeah, super exciting. I can, I can hear you guys are so interesting.

What
? That sounds so cool. Wow. God. Oh my God. I know some of our listeners are hardcore vaudeville stands and are gonna be so popped to hear that because I am popped to hear about all the vaudeville going on in the Ted Will Fierro Household and, oh my God, I just wanna be there Saturday

Night
Vaudeville. Do you have a favorite? Do you have any recommendations for our listeners who might be interested?

Yeah
, absolutely. I mean, any of the classic stuff, Abbott and Costello or, you know, like, just, just go on youtube but look for old timey crap. And, you know, there's a surprisingly small amount of documentaries about vaudeville, but there is a good amount of like old footage from the era and it's, it's kind of interesting to when you kind of think about it and realize that all of the footage of it is like the good stuff because none of the bad vaudeville acts ever got recorded, right? They never got put on film because vaudeville's decline was at the same time. That film was on an uptick, right? They didn't really live together for a very long period. So you don't see any of like the average show, you only have videos left of like the good stuff. Um And thinking that this is the good stuff is kind of interesting when you go and look at it because there's some weird fucking shit out

there
. Well, speaking of weird fucking shit, how about we uh start with the show? What do you guys think? Uh

Yeah
, I'm actually uh I, I'd love to start the show but I am now curious hearing Aaron say that. What are like, like, what's the biggest takeaway joke that uh wouldn't make sense at all? I don't know. What

was
the weirdest one you watched?

Yeah
. Ok. So this is actually, it's not so much the weirdest thing I saw, but it was the most like, aha, oh, interesting moment that I saw. So that uh show that I was talking about at the very beginning, it was called Fireball Fun for All right. It's Olson and Johnson. They're this like, you know, comedic duo. Um they're doing a riff on the movie that they had done called Hell's a Poppin, right? It's based on the stage show. He's a Poppin. Um But anyway, I, so I went and I actually watched the hells of poppin movie that had come out and I didn't realize it until like three quarters of the way through that. If you've ever seen that, like, it's probably the most famous old timey dance video. That's uh all of these black dancers doing the Lindy Hop and it's fucking crazy. It's all the stuff with them flipping all over the place and being flung around and like just, it is one of the craziest things that you've ever seen. It still holds up today as just an amazing dance video and I've seen it a bunch of times before I had absolutely no idea that this was what it was from. Super fucking cool to see it in context. And then to kind of think about the fact that the context was kind of shitty because they, at that point, they couldn't put colored actors and white actors on screen at the same time. Uh Yeah, big goof on that one. But like amazing, amazing technical work on this one. Like it was so cool to see. So anyway, if, if, if you're going to check anything out, go check that bit out because it's like, oh shit, that's why the Lindy Hop is cool.

That
sounds awesome. It's neat that it was documented that

way
. I'm curious to watch it myself. What's it? It's the fire or something?

He's
a pop in. He's from Olson and

Johnson
. Is it on youtube? Can we link it in our show notes?

I
had to pay for that fucking thing.

Oh
, damn. You have to pay for it. You know, I might, I might catch it in the next decade

actually
. You know what? I think it is on youtube. All right, if I can find it, I'll link it in the show notes. Don't worry about it. I can at least link that dance because I know that that clip of that dance is out there. So.

All
right. Well, you heard it, the clip, at least if not, the entire thing will be linked in our show notes for anyone who wants to

watch
. And now that all the, the goosing around is out of the way. First up, let's dive into our first segment, global news. So we here at Rocky Talky would like to extend our warmest wishes to little Nell who just turned 69.

Nice
, nice, nice. So Laura Elizabeth Campbell was born on May 24th, 1953 to parents Ruth and Ross. Her dad worked as a writer for the Sydney Daily Telegraph and started referring to his daughter in his works as little Nell referencing Charles Dickens story called the Old Curiosity Shop. Dad wrote a family life column and presumably he created the moniker because he just didn't want to dox his kid. However,

Nell
actually used the name Laura until she was 17 and started going by Sonata or Sony.

I
imagine that's Sony.

No
, it's actually Sony Rhymes with Donny. Yeah. And I gave myself this line specifically because I knew that I was the only one who would pronounce it because it said in the bio, Sonny Rhymes with Donny.

Yeah
.

She
wasn't called Little Nell by anyone but her dad until the seventies when she moved to Britain with her family. At which point she used it as a stage name as she tried to make it as a dancer.

During
this time. She worked at boring old day jobs like Hawking Merch at the Kensington market with Freddie Mercury, you know, lame shit like that.

Like
Freddie Mercury. Freddie Mercury. Yeah.

Like
Freddie Mercury. Freddie Mercury. She used to make fun of him and say that his belly was pooching up over his jeans.

What
a queen. So Nell got her big break in 1975. Of course, when she auditioned for the role of our favorite groupie, she reprised a Bizarro version of the role in Shock treatment where she played nurse Ant Long. And after that, the rest is history, Nell signed a recording contract, released singles like stilettos and lipstick and do the swim and showed her wonderful boobies to pretty much anyone with eyeballs

myself
included in the eighties and nineties, Nell opened up a couple of nightclubs and restaurants that closed down well before any of us, Youngins had a chance to go, but they seemed like they would have been popping a

F
95. Nell gave birth to her daughter Matilda who I personally have bought shots for that time. She came to our show. Oh, yeah. To this day, Nell still gets up to all sorts of cool shit. She's got a really, really strong online presence which she uses to keep up with us, her devoted fans and she attends all sorts of virtual conventions in rock events with Tim Pat and Uncle Bear Bear. She's also got a cameo account and according to her site is planning on coming back stateside really soon to start attending events I R L

and
we'd be remiss if we forgot to mention Nell adores her Instagram account and posts pretty much daily. Just a few days ago, she posted a whole bunch of childhood pictures along with the caption. Many of you have written in requesting photographic proof of my idyllic childhood. So here are a few glimpses. I was seven, Patrick 10 and Sally 13 when Cressida was born. Hence only appearing in the later photos. We were thrilled to have a new sibling and used to beg to be the one to hold her. Our maternal grandmother mps is doing just that in the last photo. Dad was 45 when we got our first car, a holden and Sal's Pal Clarissa poses with us in the dressing up box outfits. Let me know if you would like to see more of life at Oxalis

Cottage
. I uh I was staring off into space for a second there when I came back into focus. I was thinking man, Aaron's life sounds very different from what I thought his childhood was. Yeah. Uh I guess her birthday is making her a little nostalgic. They're super cute pictures. You should go take a look if you want to see adorable baby nell rolling with the homies. No

word
yet on how Nell will be celebrating her birthday today. But uh knowing her, we're sure to get some photos of her birthday festivities very soon. So, stay tuned for those

happy
birthday. Now, we hope you get to eat some delicious cake and get all the presents on your Amazon wish list. And of course, if you'd like to check out any of Nell's online presences, we've got a link for you in our show notes.

Next
up in global news, we've got an update on the Craig mclaughlin trial. Oh God, know. It's actually kind of a good one for

those
of our listeners who may not know absolute piece of human refuse. Craig mclaughlin played Franken Furter for several years during the Australian tour of the Rocky Horror Show.

Recently
, five of his former co stars and one crew member filed formal allegations against Craig claiming that he had committed extremely overt sexual assault against them sometimes even while they were on stage together in the middle of performances. In total 11 women testified against

Craig
back in 2020 an Australian magistrate was forced to drop the charges against Craig on the grounds that there simply wasn't enough evidence to prove sexual assault brought forth by his co stars in the decision. The magistrate lament that although the women were brave and honest, there simply wasn't enough proof to rule that the incidents amounted to sexual assault

after
he was freed. Craig immediately filed a defamation lawsuit against one of his accusers, Whelan Brown, as well as the Sydney Morning Herald for spreading falsehoods against him. This past Friday. Craig went public about the fact that he had applied for leave to abandon the case. Although his rep was sure to remind the media that he actually preferred the term not proceeding with the case. You know, because it would be such a shame if everyone thought he was a little pussy ass quitter. Can

you
imagine the fucking audacity anyway? So under the terms of Craig's little baby back bitch decision to quit like a quitter because he knew he had no case and just wanted to scare people with bullshit. Craig was ordered to pay the defendant's legal costs which amount to roughly $2.2 million or approximately 800 Frank Jackets. He's also barred from bringing any further court proceedings over the alleged defamation

$2.2
million a in a completely unrelated news story, Craig mclaughlin just sold his apartment for $1.4 million 200,000 dollars under what he was asking for it a few months ago. Wonder why a little short on cash. Craig. Huh? So in response to Craig's complete bitch out Whelan Brown made the following statement, we came forward for no other reason than to protect the women performing in the 2018 production of the show. So they didn't have to endure the same behavior that we did in 2014. That was our only intention she goes on. I was then singled out and sued for defamation. My name was dragged through the mud and my character and own behavior was exaggerated and called into question. The past 4.5 years have significantly traumatized me and the other brave women who spoke up at the time. And afterwards, I am pleased this claim has been withdrawn and I look forward to moving on with my life. I hope this is a reminder that women will stand up for themselves and each other, even when threatened by those more powerful.

We
here at Rocky Talky would like to extend the warmest of fist bumps to Whelan. The other 10 women who testified against Craig and the journalists at the Sydney Morning, Herald. We hope that you're all able to move forward with your lives without the weight of this trash bag dragging you down. If

you'd
like to read more about the case, we've got the Sydney Morning Herald rundown linked for you in our show notes. Can

you
imagine having the fucking balls to fucking sue a newspaper for writing the news? Right? Can I just, it makes me so

mad
. I didn't want to go read enough about it for like why he decided to drop it. Now, I assume something like, I mean, obviously something completely damning to his case came out. So

like
, yeah, I don't know what it was. Those photos were just leaked. So that was like a thing or it might have just been the money because who the fuck is going to rule that you can sue a newspaper for defamation for writing about a suit like he shot himself in the foot anyway.

And
with that, let's kick it on over to some community news can look. All right guys, first up in community news, I want to give a quick recap for last week's broadcast on our H P S live from the Junior Chamber of Commerce players out in Pittsburgh of their fantastic performance of Reefer Madness that happened earlier this month. So if you missed it, well, you suck. It was fucking awesome. There was a fantastic video of the performance that uh Kelsey over at J C C P uh slapped together and uh I was super happy to get to broadcast it. Um Ton of fun. Absolute ton of fun. Everybody was so fucking awesome. There was a million performers on stage because you know, it's J C C P. They got a million people and like the amount of effort that goes into doing Reefer Madness just leaves my jaw on the floor every single time I see it and it's not, it's not just the stuff that you would expect. It's not just that like, oh yes, they put 18 people on stage to do a dance number. Oh yes, everybody has perfectly screen accurate blocking for nearly everything. No, it's all the little stuff that they do because like the show isn't hard enough already. So let's make sure we do all of the pop ups that happen during in the orgy. Oh, there's already too many characters but you know, we really need somebody to play the clams. I, I, what does does, does, does your, does your shadow cast out there not own a giant nine ft tall cross that Jesus can come in on because J C C P does. What? Like what the fuck is this? Every single thing is ridiculous and I am so here for it. I, I was blown away. Costumes were amazing. Choreography was amazing. Everybody did a great job. Um The only criticism that I have um In Mary Jane Mary Lane, your, your choreography was absolutely perfect. However, I will note and that Christian Campbell when he throws a rock at, at Mary's window throws left-handed because Christian Campbell is left handed. And the only reason I know that is because I had to practice it for like three hours when we did it so that I wouldn't throw like a little bitch because I'm right handed.

So
what I'm hearing is it was ruined.

Oh
, absolutely destroyed by one infants small but yet critical piece of chore. No, of course, it wasn't, it was fucking amazing. Everything was fucking amazing. This was such a good show. I know neither one of you guys got to see it uh Because you were off doing, you know, whatever it is you guys do. Uh I still have the video for it. So absolutely we're gonna do a watch party for it. Like you guys got to see this. It is so cool and just makes me want to do fucking Reefer madness. Can we do reefer madness here we can, right? I,

we
, nobody is stopping us. Nobody is saying no, it, it might be something that has been on the forefront of my brain. I would absolutely love to do reefer madness.

I
feel like everyone always talks about doing fun. Non rocky shadow casts, but it's like it's never gonna happen because we're too busy doing other shit. Like, ever since I've been around, there's been talk of non rocky shadow casts but I have not, I have not seen that put into action

once
, ok? You weren't here last week when we had Mick on air, the amount of fucking work that it takes to put on a non rocky shadow cast is astronomical. Like they were telling us about all the prep work that they have to do and they have like slides and slides and slides of blocking notes for everyone and

something
like 100 and 20 pages or something. Absolutely ridiculous. And you

have
to do all of the rehearsals and you have to have like there's like almost 40 people in Ready for madness. So you got to have a cast of 40 or to have people like tripling up on rolls. So it's not exactly a walk in the park.

It's
fine. Don't have 40 people just do 18 costume changes. Oh,

yeah
. I'm not, I'm not slighting us for not having done it. I'm just saying it's, it's a very nice in theory, sort of thing. But, uh, I'm not putting my money in that camp.

So
, what you, you gotta remember talking about shadow casting shows that aren't Rocky is probably like the number four favorite thing for people on Rocky Cast to talk about. Yeah.

It's
like our national pastime

and
, and number three is not following through on anything that they talk about. So,

and
number two is wearing vertical

stripes
. You know, you know what, what would be fun and what would build from the already built in knowledge base of our shadow casters, the built in knowledge base of having done Rocky. So it would be easier to shadow cast one of the Rocky pornos because those already mimic Rocky horror. So to shadow cast, one of those, I feel like that just as easy as Rocky Horr. So if we wanna branch out, that's where I'd go

first
. That really shows you aren't familiar with the choreography and the pornos.

Yeah
. There's a lot of people there like there's more people in the 2011 porno than there are in reefer madness by a wide margin.

Dibs
on run. Jeremy. I get to fall asleep during the show.

Yeah
. What if we did like a porno community watch party on our H P S live? Would you guys be into that. I

am
not broadcasting smut, even if it is rocky smut

like
a virtual circle trick. You know, that's like my Friday nights already. You know, I could do it to a different uh Zoom call though. That'd be

fun
. I will cut out all of the actual porn.

You
could blur it like in that uh my God. All right listeners get in touch with us. Would you be in for a virtual rocky horror picture show watch party on R H P S live? Let us know if we can peer pressure Aaron into it, we might be able to make it happen. I own the percent

chance
that this ever happens.

I
have access to the streaming platform. It lives in my home.

You
know, the number one thing about pornography producers, they're litigious. We're

not
charging for it. They can't prove damages. One thing I learned from Craig

mclaughlin
, I know we, we can do it but be ready for that Zoom to be full of very, very sad people because I don't think anyone who's happy with themselves is showing up to the Rocky horror porno Zoom watch party

challenge
accepted right into us. Listeners. Are you happy with yourself? Would you attend this party? Let's prove Jacob wrong. Let's not next up. What do we got Jacob next

up
. A K O has announced its pride month show tour schedule which will be an absolute breath of fresh air after two years of almost exclusively driving performances throughout June. Providence's Illuminated Pride Parade will be held on Saturday, June 18th. And in preparation, A K O has booked eight pride themed shows all throughout New England leading up to the big

event
. This includes a whole bunch of Rocky shows in Rhode Island and Connecticut. Plus one extra special showing of Hedwig and The Angry Inch, which will be held on June 4th at a venue called A S 2 20 in A S 2 20 will also be hosting a performance of Rocky on Friday. June 17th. Hedwig is going to be directed by a friend of the show, Justin and will be such a delightful little preview for the Hedwig Show that we'll all get to experience together at A K 04.

The
Pride Tour festivities will run through Saturday, June 25th. The final show of the tour will take place at Moonrise Cinemas in Plymouth, Massachusetts. I mean, we're gonna go to that. It's gonna be fun. I, I absolutely cannot wait to take part in R C Os big pride parade and all of the shit that's going on. Jacob. Did you ever get to be part of one of the pride parades here in New York?

Uh
I have been to a pride parade. Yeah, I was in, I think last year's pride parade in N Y C. It was uh it was a tiny one for us for the Rock, for our shadow cast. I think there was like seven or eight other people from the cast. Um But it was COVID and I didn't have a lot going on. So I was like, you know what, why not, why not give the gays what they want? And so I donned on my Eddie costume and my fucking sexy leather vest and hit the blazing hot in New York City streets and showed a little skin.

You
love it. Did you have a great time? Um

It
was just walking. You know, there wasn't much to love or hate. It was just like a nice little, a nice little walk. Yeah, I, I guess maybe there's supposed to be other cool stuff that happens. But, but I just felt like it was, uh, it was a walk. I brought my scooter because I was in my, in my Eddie costume and I'm scooter, Eddie. So I got to scooter when I got too tired of walking. So that was, that was pretty cool. I don't know, I didn't, I didn't have any emotional connection or, or do anything. Really? Wow. Wow. For the, for the, uh, podcast to share sorry audience

in
fairness last year's pride parade. Um, as I recall was put on like, they orchestrated it in like two days, the pride marshals got in touch with me 36 hours or something stupid before the parade was supposed to be on. It was like, like 10 pm on a Friday night. And they were like, hey, we're going to do a parade. It's going to be Sunday morning. Does N Y C or H P S want to be involved. And I was like, oh, fuck. And we were in the middle of moving so we like, couldn't come. But we ended up wrangling together a full cast who went and marched and we had all the characters there, everyone was in costume and it was smaller because I think the, it wasn't advertised and it was so quickly put together, but it sounded like everyone had a pretty good time.

I
remember there was one time that we were stopped and everyone was doing the time warp and I had no idea what was going on. And I still like, I'm terrible about knowing how to fucking time warp. And I didn't know. So I was just like in a, in the middle of a bunch of people dancing for the camera just, just doing nothing like dick in my hand standing on my scooter. I felt so stupid and so bad because I was like ruining the, the shadow cast shot.

I'm
sure you did a great job. Sweetie. You, you don't really go to parades much, right?

No
, I did the first Pride Parade when I joined the New York cast. I'm pretty sure I already told this story back when we actually talked about last year's Pride parade. But that was what, 60 some episodes ago. So I'll tell the story again. I was living in hell's kitchen, uh which was just a few blocks from like where the parade was kicking off that year. And my dumb ass had volunteered my apartment for pre getting ready festivities, all that kind of stuff. And the most distinctive thing I remember is that like, I had volunteered the space and at some point when I had talked about, I was like, yeah, and you know, guys come over like, and get ready and like, I'll have beer. It'll be cool. Whatever. Now my dumb ass was like, ha ha Lol. I can say that because it's gonna be like nine o'clock in the morning. Who's gonna want a beer at nine o'clock in the morning? Well, you know who's gonna want a beer at nine o'clock in the morning at the New York City Rocky horror picture show cast? Because I remember Tom Ameci walks in my front door and this is before Tom was running the New York City cast. So cast member Tom Ameci walks in my front door and goes, all right, Aaron, where's the beer? And I go what? He's like you said there was beer and I'm like, it's nine in the morning and he's like, yeah, and I was like, I'm going to the store, that's, that's where the beer is. So 19 year old Aaron went and bought beer at the corner bodega uh to kick off the 5 2006, New York City Pride Parade.

It
was pride. You're allowed to sell beer to underage Children on

pride
. I don't think that's how that works.

Well
, if you are interested in checking out any of R K Os pride shows, tickets for all the events are on sale now and you can visit them on the cast website at R K O army dot com. All

right
. And this week we've got a special treat for you guys. We have a write in title The Disquiet in the Modern Succubi.

Oh
Jacob, I'm sorry, that's not the title. That's the writer. That's the person who sent this.

That
makes a lot more sense because it's at the header of the thing and there wasn't a writer, I'm, I'm a dumb, dumb

also
. Um I, I want to point out it's um the disquiet in the modern subconscious,

you
know, I actually picked up on that, but I made a snap judgment as a writer. I was like, oh the, the disquiet in the modern subconscious. That sounds like the title of an essay. It's like on the fucking, you know, the modern world and shit. But the disquiet in the modern succubus, what the fuck is that? Who knows? That's a mystery that's like, that's, that's gonna have our readers hooked and waiting to hear like what happens in the story, the disquiet in the modern flip culture. Like I don't, I'm not, that doesn't, you know, I'm not interested, man.

Well
, if you want, what the fuck, I think we should keep going with this right in.

Yeah
. Honestly, good, good directorial choice for the rest of this fucking thing.

All
right. So this write in comes from writer the disquiet in the modern subconscious and here is what he wrote. Hi Rocky Talky, longtime writer, first time listener, I know you can see these, your inbox can't be that full and I send enough of them the injury I sustained at your Halloween show in 2003. The only way I can cope is to relive my trauma through the lens of my trauma in many, many ways, signed the disquiet in the modern subconscious,

right
? So, um not much of a right in there, but uh Mr Modern Succubus has gone ahead and uh sent us a little script here that uh I think he wants us to read. So it looks like there's a couple of parts here and I see some Brad and Janet stuff. So, do you guys wanna wanna play Brad and Janet for this one?

I
don't see anything called Brad and Janet, but sure,

Janet
, I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, ok.

Well
, I'll, I'll read the rest of the stage directions and there might be, there might be something else in here. I've got to do but uh, oh, I see. I see now. Ok. Uh I stand corrected. So Brand and Jam pack their car into the space 30 miles away is a crashed car and a dead hymn.

So
I'll be Jamet and Jacob can be brand. I'll be brand. All right. Oh, Brand. I wonder what could have happened to him.

Don't
worry, Jamet. I had him taken care

of
. Oh, Brad, do

you
mean? Yes, Jamet. I had them taken care of.

Oh
, Brad, do you mean you killed them?

No
, Jamet. I simply had someone killed them,

Brad
. You can't just have horrible things done to people you don't like? Well,

I'll
tell you what. If I had left him alone, he would be parked right here. Now, are we to find a new parking space? Besides? You haven't even heard the Viars of the horrible things yet,

Brad
. Did you play again?

Well
, Janet, I did nothing besides say a few harmless words to a few harmful

people
. His skin looks mostly intact.

Oh
, good. It works on at least the bottom 30th that it works. Oh, good. It works on at least the bottom 30th percentile.

It's
raining.

No
, no, Janet. I'm referring to the graphs as you clearly cannot see for you are an I basil. The doctor has used very small needles with very fine thread to sew skin back to him once he was dead.

You
played again, didn't you? Oh, Brad.

But
now we have a parking spot near the castle where we might run into it. Perhaps an alien.

Hello
? I am here also. Hello.

Hello
,

I
am Richard O Bernstein and I approve of those bad things you don't like, like if

someone
were to cully play

many
such people are ended that way. Now

say
good night bitch because you end today. Push, push. Ah, hey, so,

no
, no, I mean, it, it just says violent ex emoji. And I

took
that to mean he was giving the actor permission to do the death and that's what I

Yeah
. No good, good, good uh good improv there. Yeah.

You
liked him? He liked you. I

lied
when I said I did not torture that man. Ha ha ha

ha
ha

and
seen well

felt
a little bit like a robot chicken segment.

Felt
a little bit like I was having a strong

Yes
, I like that at the beginning in the first stage direction, the characters were clarified as Brand and jam it. And through the entire script, Janet was jam it, there was just jam it and no one else but Brand was nowhere to be found. The whole script. It was Brad. So interesting. There's some message there about something I don't get because I'm not a theater type.

You
know, you're, you're probably right. I liked Richard O Bernstein.

I
am Richard O Bernstein and I approve of those bad things you don't like. I love it. That's great. I'm gonna use that in my life. So,

did
you have any thoughts?

I'm
looking up the email address for Bellevue hospital just gonna, just gonna, just gonna forward this one right on over.

They'll
know what to do with it

or
possibly the police, but I don't think they'd do anything. So Bellevue might be this, this the best hope for

this
. This is, this is a, this is a beef I have. We are reading through this and there's a line Meg said uh like if someone were to cully filet and Aaron corrected her, Aaron was like, it's vili and then Meg took it again and I looked it up. It's not a fucking word. There is a make believe word in this script, Meg pronounced and Aaron was like, no, you, you mispronounced the make believe word. M so uh yeah, get off your horse. Aaron in

his
defense. I pronounced a non make believe word, I pronounced that make believe word as a real word. And um it wasn't, it wasn't, that was my small I bezel brain.

Don't
be an embezzle ibe. Yeah, for those of you who aren't staring at this script, uh The word is spelled I M B A S E A L. So I'm bail, which I believe is to be pronounced.

You
know, I feel like we did a pretty good job with this script seeing is it was a cold read and we clearly don't think the way that this writer um does. But uh thank you the disquiet in our modern subconscious. Thank you. For sending this our way and we hope that you um continue to write in do

that
. Yeah, this was, this was, this was good.

This
was fun.

Thank
you, Mr Suki.

If
you really like listening to that and you've got your own Rocky I ideas and you've thought about what if I could put words into the mouth of Janet or Frank or Rocky or Brad or anyone? Uh Please dear God write a script. Send it to us. That was the most fun I have had since I was in kindergarten and did that like rainbow thing with the I don't even fucking know but it was fun. I had a, I had a rainbow. Yeah, like you, you everyone, it was like a circle. Everyone grabbed it and you like flung it up and then ran inside and then ran back out.

I
like I like doing the popcorn balls thing, right? Where they put the balls in the middle of it and you pop them all up in the air

childhood
. So yeah, please do that. We will, we can't pay you money because that's just not how it works. But we'll, we'll say you got a big penis. OK?

Yeah
. Uh Fucking modern Chucky clearly has a huge magnet.

Oh
my God. It's bigger than my fucking foot. Jesus. I was gonna have sex with it. But then I was like, no, I'm gonna lose my asshole. I'm gonna lose my asshole, my intestines. Are gonna fall out. Jacob, you've gotta hold yourself

back
for, for reference, Jacob wears size four women, so

I
do not wear a size four women's shoes. Thank you very much.

And
if any of our listeners uh want to write in, it doesn't have to be fan fixed scripts. It could be any cool shit that you're doing that you're working on that, your cast is working on that you want us to talk about on air, send us an email to Rocky Talkie podcast at gmail dot com and you too can have the most magnum of all the dons. And with that, let's move on to our next segment, Jacking it with Jacob,

right
? Everybody. Let's get down to it. Jacking it with Jacob.

Sorry
, Jacob, you're gonna have to go jerk it in the corner by yourself because I think we're gonna take this one. So today I want to take this segment and I'm gonna be an absolutely devastating downer. I'm sorry in advance out there guys. But, but this one hit so close to home on May 19th community legend, William Steven Brennan passed away at the age of 57. You all knew him as Bill many on the New York City cast and in the wider community knew him as Uncle Bill, a title that was lovingly bestowed by those he welcomed to the Rocky community throughout his over 30 year tenure,

Bill
first saw Rocky Horror on his 15th birthday in 1980 he joined the Linden New Jersey cast the very next night, the week after he attended his first showing of the Rocky Horror Picture Show at New York's Eighth Street Playhouse and joined that cast as well in his younger years, he was a riff raff. And as time went on, he put his own amazing spin on everyone's favorite ex delivery boy, Eddie and Mr None himself, the criminologist

for
20 years, Bill performed nonstop with the New York City cast. In that time, he was the New York casts, most prolific promoter. He flied the town with ads for the one and only New York City cast. He also produced many of the fantastic Rocky horror events at nightclubs all over Manhattan in the late eighties all the way through to the early two thousands. And these are iconic clubs that many of you out there would recognize the limelight, the palladium, the Hellfire Club Webster Hall, the Roxy and many, many more.

And
these weren't just your run of the mill shadow casts. These were live shows without the movie and performed to the original Roxy soundtrack. They were a unique and groundbreaking concept, bringing Rocky Horror out of the movie theater and into the heart of the New York nightlife. Bill's dedication to Rocky everywhere it could find an audience was years ahead of its time and he pioneered a formula that the community has only recently come to embrace

Bill
hung up. His weekly fish nets in the early two thousands after 20 years of weekly performances. But his love for Rocky certainly didn't stop when he stepped out of the spotlight. He continued to guest perform with the New York City cast and attend community events as often as he could. Many New York cast members performing today still recall with excitement. The moment that they finally got to meet the legendary Bill Brennan.

Bill's
second Love was Shock Treatment and he loved playing Bert Schnick. Most of all he helped, he run the National Shock Treatment Convention cast and he was a staple at New York's shock treatment performances. He was even the vice president of the Shock Treatment fan club. You can hear Bill alongside Madman Mike doing the official commentary on the shock treatment DVD

in
1995 just in time for Rocky Horror's 20th anniversary Bill started the crazed imaginations fan scene in the very first issue. His editorial reads

first
and foremost, the writers, artists and layout persons are going to try our hardest to make sure that this will be a universal magazine that is a magazine that Rocky Horror picture Show fans from New York to California. Great Britain to Mexico can pick up and enjoy equally.

I'm
sure he couldn't have foreseen it in 1995. But crazed imaginations would go on to be the longest running Rocky Horror fan publication and was cherished by the entire community in the early days, Bill wrote the editorials that introduced every issue. He also wrote quite a selection of fan fiction community updates and many, many articles he handed off the reigns of crazed to Ruth Fink Winter in 1998 but continued to write the occasional piece throughout the publication's eventual conclusion. In 2006, it truly was a universal magazine that was enjoyed by fans all over the world. Bill

also
appeared in Sapiro book Creatures of the Night Two in 1995 and appeared in V H One's 20th anniversary Halloween special as Bert Schnick in 1998 Bill helped arrange for little Nell to appear at the New York City Convention. And again, he helped wrangle the star for the 2000 Allentown Con at conventions. Bill was always the life of the

party
. If you somehow haven't heard the story, ask Mad Man Mike about the fat drunk guy in the baby crib. It's a story from Megan Tabor's 1996 Rocky Con. No, Bill is not the guy in the crib or you know, maybe just find me at R K 04. I wasn't there and I sure as hell can't tell the story as well as Bill or Mad Man. But if you ask, I'll, I'll do my best

for
his lifelong commitment to the community. Bill was honored in October of 1999 at the El Fishnet Fiesta Convention in Tucson Arizona with the Rocky Horror community's highest distinction, the Boss Award becoming the fourth ever recipient.

Bill's
passing is truly an unexpected blow to all that knew him. Our sincere condolences go out to his wife, Adama and his entire family, both nuclear and chosen

in
the third issue of crazed imaginations. Bill wrote a very touching editorial about the passing of Patricia Quinn's late husband and I think he can wrap this up better than we can. Bill wrote.

I'm
not sure I have the right words or even if there are right words for what I'm trying to communicate. But Rocky Horror certainly has strong parallels to real life. It's not just pictures on a screen, at least not to me and a few 100 of my closest friends, it's more, it's even more than real life at times because each week, Frank and Brad and Janet are back lost in the rain at the castle, doing the time warp and learning about each other and themselves. Kind of like the picture show called Life that we all star in each day of our lives. And there's a lesson to be learned in Rocky Horror, a different lesson for each of us. If we only look, listen and feel hard enough lessons in life, lessons in love and lessons and endings and in new beginnings more. So I think, how about you? Any thoughts I'd like to know? So, from all of us here at Rocky Talky, thank you, Bill. You're an inspiration to all of us and you will be deeply, deeply missed, two absent friends,

two
absent

friends
, two absent friends.

We'll
talk to you all next week. Bye. Brand and Jam. Pack their car into the space. 30 miles away is a crashed car and a dead hymn.

So
I'll be Janet and Jacob can be Brand. I'll be Brand. All right. Oh, Brand, I wonder. Oh, Brad. I wonder what could have happened to him.

Don't
worry, Jamet, I had him taken care of.

Oh
, Brad, do you mean?

Yes
, Jamet. I had them taken care of.

Oh
Brad. Do you mean you

killed
them? No, Jamet. I simply had someone killed them,

Brad
. You can't just have horrible things done to people. You don't like.

Well
, I'll tell you what if I had left him alone, he would be parked right here. Now, are we to find a new parking space besides? You haven't even heard the Viars of the horrible things yet,

Brad
? Did you play again? Well,

jam
it, I did nothing besides say a few harmless words to myself. Nope. Say a few harmless words to a few harmful people.

His
skin looks mostly intact.

Oh
, good. It works on at least the bottom 30th that it works. Oh, oh, good. It works on at least the bottom thirtiesth. Fucking cock sucking, fuck dicks. Oh oh good. 30th 30th. Uh OK. Oh good. It works on at least the bottom 30th. Get fucked. Percentile Aaron. You're gonna have to clean that up.

I'm
not thirsty. It's raining.

No
, no, Janet. I'm referring to the graphs as you can clearly see. Nope, as you, as you clearly cannot see for you are an I basal. The doctor has used very small needles with very fine thread to sew skin back to him once he was dead.

You
played again, didn't you? Oh, Brad.

But
now we have a parking spot near the castle where we might run into a, perhaps an alien.

Hello
. I am here also. Hello. Hello, I am Richard O Bernstein. And I approve of those bad things. You don't like,

like
if someone were to vehicular, like if someone were to vehicular play,

it's
, it's, but ok,

like
if someone were to vile,

many
such people are ended that way.

Now
say good night bitch because you end today. Ah, hey, something.

Oh
, I mean, it, it just says violent ex emoji and

I
took that to mean he was giving the actor permission to do the death and that's what

I
, yeah. No. Good, good, good, uh, good improv there. Yeah,

I
thought you liked him. He liked you.

I
lied when I said I did not torture that man. Ha ha ha ha ha.

And
seen, well, um.