Hello to all of you. Unconventional conventions. Welcome back to Rocky Talkie, Rocky Horror Podcast where we talk about anything and everything. Rocky Horror. I'm John, I'm Aaron and I'm Nicky. What a miserable fucking week it has been. Yeah. Honestly, like the past week for at least for anyone who is not in the tri-state area of like, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, I guess. And then the small ones that are to the east of New York that nobody cares about, like it has been miserable this week. It's been so fucking hot and now it's raining and it's freezing and we're going into June and what is happening? You, you lost me there for, because I was going to say it is May 30th and I don't know about y'all, but it is 40 degrees where I live. I had to wear my winter coat to go to the bagel store. Well, aside from this week being miserable outside Aaron, Nicky, how have y'all been, how have your weeks been? What have you done? Miserable? What have you done? What have you done? Oh, you know, despite the weather this week hasn't been too bad for me. I uh I reinstalled Team Fortress too. That's fun. Yeah, that was nice. Uh I also installed Overwatch uh played, played about three hours of that and then went and literally reinstalled Team Fortress Two. Uh because Overwatch sucks and ultimate abilities are fucking dumb. So Overwatch does suck. And that's why I play it. But when I wasn't sitting on my ass playing video games, we were cleaning up the house. We're looking at selling. So we're Yeah, yeah, we're looking, looking to get that sweet, sweet money out of people trying to escape out of the city. Uh So we've been cleaning up the house, getting everything in tip top shape ready to look at. That's gonna be our next month over here in uh Aaron Land. Uh What have you been up to Nicky? How was your week? It was really good. Um, me and Josh celebrated our anniversary on Friday. So we went out and we saw a quiet place part two and that's the first time I've been in a movie theater other than like rocky stuff since before COVID. So I was really excited because like, I missed the whole like new movie experience and it was really good. It was such a good movie. I absolutely recommend seeing it when you can because it was phenomenal. It was at like the same par as the first movie I was really excited. Um But yeah, it was overall, it was just like a really Good week. Uh, I tried the BT S meal from mcdonald's. I got the new sauces. They were absolutely baller. I recommend it was dope. It was a cool week. Wait, what kind of new sauce is? They have a Cajun sauce and a sweet chili sauce? Shut up, John. All right. I didn't like the sweet chili because I'm not like, I don't even like anything like chili flavored, but the Cajun sauce. Oh my God. I need it in a bottle and I need it in my fridge yesterday. Is that a euphemism? Yes. Does somebody want to ask me how my weekend was? No, I think we should just move on to global news. All right. Yeah, that's valid. So we're starting off this week with, how was your week, John? I thought we were actually just going to do it. I uh I didn't really do anything this week. Honestly. A lot of streaming, a lot of existing. I think the most important part about this past week is that for work, I'm officially in summer mode. And for those of you who do not know, I work in higher education. So I work at a college in New York City and there's really nothing to do right now. Like students have graduated, everyone is on summer break and we're still virtual. So I'm just kind of like waking up at because I work 11 to 7. I'm just kind of waking up at 11 and just play Overwatch all day and getting paid to do it, which is pretty stink and neat. And it's gonna be like that for the next three months. It's gonna be fantastic. Oh, man, I'm really excited for you. Yeah, that is the life right there. It really is. It really is. I get to work for, uh, quote unquote. I get to work from 11 AM to seven PM and then I stream from 7 30 until whenever the fuck I feel like finishing and I get paid for both of them and it's lovely. So, despite it being horrible outside, I wouldn't even know that was literally just like me being an alien trying to communicate with people who actually go outside because I don't even have like a window near me. I don't know what's going on out there. The world is a different place. It really is. Oh, wait, I did something terrible this week and I want to share it because I'm embarrassed, I'm fully vaccinated now, my two weeks are up. So I was going to have like a little barbecue with all of my friends from Memorial Day weekend that got vaccinated. But the problem is I can't open my, we weren't able to open our pool this weekend. So I was like, no big, I spent like 250 bucks and I bought a bunch of inflatable pools off Amazon and I had them expedite the shipping so I could have it for Sunday. Now it's torrent down pouring. So I canceled the barbecue and we're opening the pool. So now I just have all these giant pools that I'm never gonna use living in my garage. Forever. Hook John up. I hear that he, uh, he needs to do a hot tub stream. We might have to get our own ones and just hot tub stream. Rocky talkie from now on Rocky Talky hot tub stream. That is a genius idea. That's a genius idea. Let's do it. Folks. Speaking of horrible ideas with that, let's get started with our first segment with Global News. This week, we're starting off with a bit of Sad News. Freddie Marks who performed in the premiere run of the Rocky Horror Show in the UK has passed away last Thursday, May 20th. He lived just long enough to celebrate my birthday yet. Freddie wasn't in the initial cast at the Royal Court Theater or the Classic Cinema. Otherwise he would already know his name. Uh Instead he joined the original run uh in January of 1977 at the Kings Road Theater. He performed as Brad opposite Ellie Smith and later Pippa Hartman as Janet. His run as Brad ended in September of 1979. Shortly after the show moved to the Comedy Theater, he was replaced by Stephen Devereaux for the show's remaining run through September of 1980. Of course, the show was revived in 1983. For the joint K M T theater, Royal Handley tour and has been consistently performing in the UK from then until the present day. Unlike most of us, Mr Marks had a vibrant life outside of Rocky Horror and is most well known for his work on Rainbow, which was a UK television show for kids. Kind of similar to Sesame Street. The show it's called Rainbow. That's, that's a little ironic considering Brad is like our ultimate sis hetero white guy. You know, you say that Aaron and you're not wrong, but Freddie's time with this kids show was pretty fantastic. Freddie joined the cast of Rainbow in 1980 the show had been running since November 1972 and would continue to run with the now popular trio of Rod Burton, Freddie Marks and Jane Tucker until December 1992 an impressive 20 year run time. Rainbow had been through two other cast members, Matthew Corbett and Roger Walker before Mark Rod and Jane came together to form the most popular trio of the show, which was Rod Jane and Freddie. The same year Freddie joined the cast of Rainbow in 1980 Rod Jane and Freddie were approached by ITV, which is a competitor of the BBC to do their own show. Simply titled Ron Jane and Freddie, which was a 15 minute children's show with 120 episodes that helped skyrocket the three to stardom. Rod Jane and Freddie's last episode aired March 1991 giving the trio over a decade in the spotlight of UK children's television. During their careers, they made over 2500 songs as well as 10 albums and 24 videos. I think everyone will be happy to hear just like any good Rocky horror cast. This trio of actors was plagued by incestuous activities, not literally of, of course, uh Freddie joined the cast of Rainbow in 1980 but just a year earlier, his other two castmates Jane Tucker and Rod Burton had been divorced. They were married previously, Mark began seeing Jane in 1985. And rumors of some weird menna shit between Rod Jane and Freddie sprang up in the tabloids sometime around 2008. But true to his brad roots, Freddie and Jane were pretty vanilla and they ended up getting married in 2016. Sadly, Freddie was diagnosed with cancer back in January and passed away just shy of his fifth anniversary with Jane, but he did live long enough for my birthday. He left a stellar legacy behind and he will be missed by many. Thank you for bringing so much joy to so many people. Freddie. We'll see you on the other side next up. We've got a few pieces of Barry Boswick news. Little tiny Grimble pieces and we'd like to welcome or not. Our writer and resident Uncle Barry correspondent Jacob to join us on the air. Hey, Jacob. Hi, everybody. Glad to be here, although I do wish under less morose circumstances. Yes. Now, Barry has always been a very active artist and he has a packed resume for his years in the industry. Unfortunately, it seems one of his recent projects inside the actor's studio is gonna be coming to a close. This sucks, guys. This sucks and no one understands inside the extra studio has been bringing laughter and happiness to the hearts and minds of literally hundreds of youtube viewers since their first episode on October 15th 2015 and canceling them now is like cutting off their legs just as they learn to walk. They've had three seasons over six years and they broke 50 K viewers in season two. And if NBC can't realize how that makes them deserving of four more years, then they're blind Jacob. OK. NBC doesn't control youtube and youtube shows don't get renewed. Don't most of their videos have like a few 100 viewers. Oh, sure guys laugh in my face like I don't understand ratings or general public taste. I get it guys. It's everyone else who is totally blind, mildly fearsome films. The youtube channel responsible for inside the extra studio saw how promising it all was and made the spinoff series worst extra ever. But most worst extra ever videos can't even crack one K. Everyone is just out here shitting on Barry and dragging his name through the mud just like his long pendulous Foli dragging through the mud. As he walks pantsless over a pile of mud. Sometimes in my private thoughts. I like to think of him as Uncle Tripod. You're spending a lot of time thinking about Barry's cock and mud. Jacob. We're literally cutting off their P P just as they're learning to plow and sure, sure, everyone's so fucking ready to point the finger at me and I'll admit it. I've been busy seeing a new girl. I think her name is Andrea. I call her Barry and I've been spending a lot of my time making both of us wear cardboard berry masks and yeah, I've been shirking my responsibilities to Barry for it. Jacob, aren't you at your grandmother's house right now? Did you just say my bestie Andrea's name? There are so many questions I am at my grandmother's house and I'm, I'm getting kind of worried about screaming the word cock and things so much. You can hear me while I added all three seasons and 30 episodes as well as the three bonus outtake episodes to their I M DB page as well as made the I M DB page for inside the extra studio. I didn't make the episode summaries. I admit that and I know that Daddy Barry is disappointed in me for that. That's a cross I'm willing to bear, but I can't stand you. The fans trying to blame me for what happened to inside the extra studio. Sure, inside the extra studio started out with a great cast of happy, playful people who make every episode a delight to watch, but they tried to use consistent guest appearances to promote their brand, which never works. It's not my fault inside the extra studio built a strong sense of self alongside a plethora of names like that really thick nerdy guy who got to make out with a supermodel in that go daddy commercial. Apparently his name is Jesse Hyman or Doug Jones. He played the fishman in both Hellboy and the shape of water. You'd think he'd be moderately famous. But then he's collab with this. And John Cozart who sings on youtube and has almost five million followers. That's literally more people than CNN can hope for in a week. CNN S daily. Numbers are better than that, by the way. Yeah. Just throwing that out there, Jacob. All right. All right. What a way to swing your cock around all over Barry's. Barry's bit. OK. This is about not you, Aaron, let's tone it down inside. The extra studio was a great comedy show. Little five minute comedy clips that took hysterical, deep dives into the extra career space alongside fun new names. Every week. They just never found their audience and we're literally cutting off their toes just as they're learning to pick up dirty socks from the floor with their toes. So they don't have to bend down anymore to put them in the Pamper. What the fuck? Why as many guests as they had on, they couldn't co-opt anyone's audience and seemed to get lost in the algorithm. I mean, where was youtube supposed to put it under s for sexy, F for funny, E for extra? If I can't tell you with all the endless weeks of time, I've spent watching Barry on a screen. What hope does a computer have to quantify it? Aaron buddy. Do you have any good news for me in these troubled times? Would you tell me about an upcoming public Barry appearance per perhaps in the area? All this talk of cancellation has really got me down. Yeah, man, I got you bud. I mean, it's in the Raleigh area but that's OK. You, you say it, I say it, Raleigh, whatever you want. No, I I say, you know, that's fine. Thanks for joining us, Jacob. We love you and in a way that only a mother can to everyone. What a guy. Yeah, I, I can't even pretend like that was something no guys. I mean, this is legit though, like inside the extra studio is fucking hilarious if you haven't gone and watched all of this shit on youtube. Barry is funny. The supporting cast is funny. The spinoff series is funny. Go watch this shit. It is so entertaining. On that note. Here you go, Jacob, bring out your streamers and your noisemakers and whatever other shit you use in conjunction with Barry uh Galaxy Con Raleigh will be live in the flesh at the Raleigh Convention Center from July 29th to August 1st this year. Notable among the artists in attendance will be none other than Barry Bostwick selling autographs and professional photoshoots. Among other things we've talked about a few Rocky horror virtual panels like Galaxy Con has done, but they're more like a jacked up comic con filled with stars and creators from all corners at this rally time to name a few of their guests. They have a professional group of tap dancing cos players, a group called Noise complaint who weave together elaborate costumes with choreographed tap dancing and improvisational acting. Those are words that I just said. Jorge Jati will also be there with the booth. Janie is a prolific comic book artist who worked with Marvel and DC before opening his own comic studio studio, Revolver Jos Weedon also asked for this man personally to work on dark horse comics, Buffy the Vampire Slayer season eight comic, which ended up Netting Gente a multitude of awards. Oh, those were pretty good. Right? And I know at this point we're all thinking tap dancing cos players, comic book writers. But John aren't there any panelists who aren't fucking weaves or Rocky Horror shadow cast? Which one's better? Well, you're in luck because Galaxy Con has just the nerds that you need celebrity guests like William Shatner, Captain Kirk Lana Perria, the evil queen once upon a time. And Jody Benson, who voiced motherfucking Disney's aerial will all have a booth at Galaxy Con rally. Can we just take a step back and appreciate the three biggest nerds in the world sitting here on the Dweebs podcast who have ever existed. Acting like some of these big famous nerds are somehow cooler than some of these other big famous nerds. Let's just enjoy that for a moment. Shall we think more? Rocky, please? Barry will have a booth for all four days of Galaxy Con. He'll be there Thursday, July 29th, all the way to Sunday, August 1st. He'll have autograph sessions, photo ops and he'll participate in a live Q and A. You can purchase a personal video chat with the man, the myth, the legend, the uncle starting soon, every in person and virtual experience with Barry will go on sale on July 10th, including autograph signing on any items you'd like. And as Aaron already mentioned, future professional photoshoots with Barry can be bought. Thank you, Nikki. Remember it's going to be in Raleigh, North Carolina this upcoming July 29th to August 1st. It would be awesome to support Galaxy Con. But also this is an anime thing in one of the Carolinas. So we won't fault anyone for setting it out. You know what Aaron, I just think you're jealous of the Carolinas and their anime, John, you want to get on to community news before I have to cancel Aaron for insulting the Carolinas. I mean, I would also like to insult the Carolinas. Why am I pro Carolinas first up in community news. The Rocky Horror on tour and beyond. Facebook group is currently holding a pre tour costume competition for all members of the Rocky community to kick off the 2021 tour season. The contest has 13 different categories. One for each character, Frank Janet Brad, Magenta Riff Columbia. Rocky narrator slash Crim Eddie, Doctor Scott, the Transylvanian, the user and original design. My favorite characters, original. Yeah, I, I love original design. I love that part in Rocky where the original design um You know. Yeah. Yeah, I know. We all know the page admins are calling one character at a time when the character you play is called, you'll have a chance to submit a photo of yourself in costume. The category winner will be determined by the amount of likes each photo receives and winners will advance on to the final round of the competition. The grand floor show, whoever wins that bracket will receive a fun prize bag. I got your fun prize bag right here. Is that Dick Joke? Yeah, obviously. Ok, good. Well, if you're interested in winning John's fun prize bag or entering the competition at all, you need to be over 16. All right. Well, first off, you need to be a lot older than 16 to win my fun bag. But for the competition, you need to be over 16 and be part of the Rocky Horror on tour and be on Facebook group, which we've linked to in our show notes, you can only enter one photo per category. So make sure to choose wisely, anyone in the group can take part in the voting process. All you've got to do is go through the photos and like the ones that you think are best. I really don't like contests like this because it really, it does just kind of sound like a popularity contest to me, dude. It's Rocky. It would be weird if it weren't a popularity contest. Ok. But like, OK, going to improv for a sec here, we all have the exact same costume. It's just like who's got more homies, you know what I mean? And who has a friend with a really, really, really good camera to make them look better, the person who takes it on their iphone or if someone looks good enough to attract the homies of another person, like co-op the homies. I mean, I guess, I don't know anything that is voted by, like, not a third party. Like you kind of can just get anybody involved. I'm like, I'm gonna head out. Are you saying you're not in favor of popularity contests? Yes, that seems very off brand for you. I was not popular. Ever. Hold on. I got to jump in on this one for one second because yes, while costume contests in the Rocky horror picture show community are always just deciding between four different versions of an edge creation costume in the UK for the stage show tours. People go fucking weird. Crazy man. They have costumes that are out there. You'll see stuff that's like Brad from 15 tours ago or my own weird crossover of Doctor Who Janet. So like it's not all gonna be the same, but it is still a popularity contest. Yeah. So if you're popular right now, the group is taking submissions for Janet costumes. So if you or someone you know has a bomb ass photo dressed as Janet, click the link in our show notes to submit and maybe win a prize. The prize is my penis. You know, as long as you are like, well over 16 more categories will be announced soon. So make sure you stay tuned to the group for new submission announcements. How far over 16 do we have to be? Because I'm this many and I'd like to compete for your fun bag for my, for my fun price bag. What is it? Yeah. Fun price bag for my fun prize bag. Uh Let let me have my age plus seven. Let me do the math on that and see if that is correct. How old am I right now? Uh I'd say half my age plus like half my age plus 10. Maybe that seems like a safe bet. Speaking of new announcements, we've got some new Indie design merch. This week. The Fresh Prince of Hell's Layer is an independent art shop that writes, creates designs and sells custom newspaper, front pages based on various movies and fandoms. Shop owner Sean Watson runs the storefront which carries an incredibly wide array of fandom newspapers from scary headlines reading Jason V. He's dead. Who is the man behind the mask to artsy stuff like death at the Moulin Rouge to the comical wet bandits captured if you're a movie buff, this shop probably has a custom paper from a phantom that you're into. They carry over 160 unique designs after all. Wait. Ok. So that's Friday the 13th. Moulin Rouge is obviously Moulin Rouge who are the Wet Bandits? Oh, uh, the Wet Bandits are this gay team of porn stars who like, I mean, they're into water sports and, uh, mostly just pissing on each other. They like to break into people's houses. Start all of the water going, steal all of the Christmas presents and then just piss on each other. It's home alone, Nikki, it's home alone. They're not gay. What's happening? They're not gay at all. They're just two robbers who rob people and turn on the faucets. You're lying. Me. Yes, I thought I for, for a good hard minute there. I thought they were like a new up upstart porn group who, like, took their name from the home alone thing, you know, trying to cash in on all those people who grew up loving home alone and now are like, wanna be horny by it. But you're just lying to me. I don't know. Speaking to the talk boy. Oh, can I not be heard? No. The talk boy is the thing that he has in the second home alone movie. The little thing that makes the sounds that he uses to, you know what, some of you haven't watched Home Alone as recently as I have. And that's a damn shame. I've never seen Home alone. That is a damn shame. That is a damn shame. That's a damn shame. Anyway, Sean has recently started carrying a front page from none other than the Denton Daily with a headline that reads extraterrestrial transsexuals creatures, murder, sex, transvestites and time warps. This paper is really freaking cute. They've got expose style photos about a bunch of the characters, a bonus article about the ongoing search for everyone's favorite. No good, cheap little punk and even some cute little in universe advertisements. It's got some major weekly world news vibes in the best way. Nikki, you, you don't know who the web bandits are but weekly World news is on the forefront of your mind. What can I say? I'm a woman of class. The prints come in three different sizes are printed in high res on matte finish, photo paper and retail for like just under £15 which translates to roughly $20 or 1, 1/50 of a Frank jacket. If you're interested in shopping. We've got the storefront link for you in our show notes, guys. Do you know what time it is? No. Uh, 5, 12 PM. Yeah. But also do you know what other time it is? Time for everybody's favorite Nicky flavored segment. No, but close. Wait, what time is it, Nicky? Is it time for one of our listeners to slap their gigantic pulsating throbbing dons magnus on the community table and talk about how fucking cool they are. Yes. Listen, most of the time I hate hearing people talk about themselves unless they're talking about me. In which case they're not talking about themselves. But honestly, Big Dick story time is the single exception to that rule. Wait, but I tell you about my life all the time. Yes, you do. But you're such a good listener and always listen to my many, many, many, many, many, many deeply crushing soul repelling problems and you give me such good advice. Yes, I sure do. This week's writing is from the one the only Diet Rice. Yes, I love you. Diet rice. I love you. So, so, so, so, so much. I love you so much. You said my soul on fire. Can I read it? Absolutely. Go for it. Nikki. OK. Name Diet Rice. The one and the only, you know, you know how it is message. OK. I'm so excited. Here's my Big Dick story time back in the eighties. My dad would rent and then bootleg movies, he would make like 20 copies of Top Gun for my family and friends. Anyway, my mom was a big Rocky fan. So he of course, did the same with Rocky. So the first time I saw Rocky was when I was three with my mom right off the bat. It was one of my favorites. That was my Disney movie growing up. I remember watching it and being blown away as a kid after we first watched it, I asked if we could rewatch the rock and roll vampire movie. My mom was like, what the fuck. Uh OK, we can. Well, in the mid nineties, the town we lived in had a small rundown movie theater. My mom was taking me to see some kids movie. Of course, we went to get popcorn and behind the counter, they had prop bags. I only knew it was for Rocky because the bags had Rocky horror on them. I freaked out and said mom, we have to go and she said maybe when you're 13, she did go by herself and ran into a guy shaving his legs in the ladies' room. To me, Rocky was amazing as a kid. I would just watch it on my bootleg V H si would bring that tape over to sleepovers and go, hey guys, this movie is amazing. Not always a hit but my small group of friends in elementary did like it. My one dream was to go to Rocky with my mom. But sadly, our small movie theater closed down and then my mom got sick. But every year around my birthday and Halloween, we would still watch it on VH1. Sorry to ramble a bit. I just wanted to share how Big Dick my Rocky story was. Oh, man. What an awesome like quintessential Finding Rocky horror story. Good for your parents for being so cool with you watching it at such a young age. I'm sure that experience helped instill the values that helped mold you into the reprobate. You are today. Honestly, though, in, in the mid nineties, a lot of the themes in Rocky were a lot less normalized than they are today. I imagine that there were fewer parents back then who would have been ok with letting their kid watch Tim Curry's hot ass swing around in those peep toe platforms. I always applaud parents who teach their kids that it's ok and even cool to be different. I mean, fuck mine. Sure did and look at how I turned out different. That's, hey, honestly, I'm just really thankful that Diet Rice A K A Erica's dad showed her the movie so young because if he didn't, we might not have her today. And for those of you who don't know Erica is a quintessential asset to F N S and it's Rocky horror experience. She has been our most devoted regular since like 2018 and I cannot imagine our show without seeing her in the front row every week with a big smile and a prop bag. And also can we give a shout out to Mother Rice who walked in on the guy shaving his legs in the bathroom and to the guy who was probably getting into costume. We've all been there, buddy. Real talk though. We all use the theatre's public restrooms as our dressing rooms before showtime. Like we ain't fancy. What is the weirdest shit an audience member has walked in on you doing or even worse. A theater patron who wasn't an audience member. I have so many of these who wants to go first. Uh I actually don't have a lot of stories myself. Like the worst thing is just me putting my Frank makeup on and somebody comes in wondering what I'm doing and having like a less than stellar reaction to it or like people coming in seeing me doing that and then immediately walking right out like, you know, stuff I feel like we've all dealt with. But there was this one night during our Halloween season where N Y C does nine pm and midnight shows. I was nine pm, Frank and I was not on the final show at all. Savannah was tricky at the nine pm show and was supposed to be Frank for the midnight show. But then Savannah got hit with food poisoning like directly after they did their tricky routine and then spent the entirety of the nine pm show shitting and vomiting their brains out. Like, like to the point where, you know, when you're like crying because it's coming out too fast and it's like loud and all of that stuff. So she sat in the bathroom and did that for like two hours straight. Fucking hot, hot as hell. Right? Literally, the hottest thing that anyone has ever done in Rocky, I simply would pass away. I cannot imagine the theater patrons and their reactions to hearing like and like for like two hours straight into the bathroom meg has never found a bucket so fast in her entire life. This didn't affect me in any way, shape or form. The only way that it affected me is that I had to play Frank again for the midnight show. And let me tell you, there are a lot of things that I will do for the Rocky Horror community, but playing Frank twice back to back is no longer one of those things that's fair though, man. That's fair. I don't think I walked for like that entire Sunday after my feet were killing me. Oh my God. I feel so bad for who me or Savannah. I have like a laundry list of these stories, but I do have a favorite one time we did a show at Rutgers which is like, I'm sure everybody knows Rutgers, but it's just like a New Jersey College. Uh and they have a, they have their own theater. It's called Rutgers Cinema and it's very big. And we do, like, we do like two shows a year there. This was a Halloween show. It was fully sold out. I was playing Janet and I showed up to the theater like three hours early and I was getting ready in the bathroom. And it's like, I, I'm very spoiled at my home theater because when we do Rocky, there's nobody that's like else is in the theater. The only people that are in our theater are there for Rocky. So I like forgot that people can be in movie theaters and not know what Rocky Horror is. So I was in the women's bathroom and I was in my Janet bra panty hose wrapped up right below my Janet bra white underwear, standing in front of the mirror, bald in a wig cap, shaving my armpits. And these two college girls just like walked in, looked at this bald naked woman shaving in a bathroom sink and then just like looked at each other and walked out and I almost like, I didn't know what to do in that situation because in my head, I wanted to like, chase them out and explain why I was doing what I was doing. But then I realized like the bald naked woman chasing them out of the bathroom is somehow works. So I, I didn't know what to do. I literally just picked up all my shit and I went into one of the stalls and I locked the door and I think I stayed there for like 45 minutes because I just had to like, process what had happened to me. Um But I'm sure that, that definitely made it to some friend group chat. Like, what the fuck is going on at Rutgers Cinema tonight? It was an experience. Oh, man, that's a good one. Nicky. I, it's, I, I, I don't have a ton of stories about like being in the bathrooms. I'm real good about going and finding a little corner to hide in while I do anything getting ready for the show. But I do remember this one time when I had first joined a Rocky cast in the Midwest. And unlike over here on the east coast. Well, no, I mean, unlike in New York, but like in F N S we got to drive to our shows. Right. Well, one night I put on all my Eddie stuff. I drive, you know, part way to the theater, realize I got to get gas and I stop at this gas station to pump a couple of gallons of gas and go in. So I walk in to pay for the gas and the guy behind the counter just freaks out and he starts like rushing over to the sink that's behind the counter and like grabbing paper towels and like coming over to me and I'm just standing there like what, what's going on, man? And he's like, dude, are you OK? Are you OK? And that's when I realized like, oh right. OK. I'm still in full makeup and whatever and I used to do like now I'm lazy. I just slap on a bunch of paint but I used to do full like liquid latex for my Eddie scars and stuff. So apparently it looked good enough to fool this gas station attendant who admittedly was probably high out of his mind. He's a gas station attendant in the Midwest but like he just came over freaking out like, dude, are you so? Ok and I'm like, no, I'm fine. I'm fine, man. Can I just pay for my gas and get going? I gotta go. I I always liked wearing, wearing the makeup out for that reason. It always got responses. So that was always fun. Yeah, I very much enjoy going into places that are not appropriate to be like half rocked and do it like one time me and Andrea went to a taco bell and Andrea was wearing a bald cap and Columbia makeup and we just walked right in and got tacos and nobody said a damn thing. But you know everyone was thinking some weird shit was about to go down, man. I want tacos. Hey, on Monday we can get them uh back in the late ages. Sometimes I would get out of work really late. On Fridays and I would get to the theater, like, too late for me to, like, get into Rocky costume. And sometimes I would be playing Frank so sometimes I would actually leave work, go home, get into my Frank makeup and then take the subway down and like, it's New York City. So not many people, everyone is like, you've seen everything on a New York City subway but the looks that you get and I'm bald already. I don't have to wear a bald cap, but like, I don't go in a full frank costume. You know, I just go full Frank makeup and my bald ass head out there. And the looks that you've received are unlike the looks that I have received anywhere else in my life. That's pretty great. What about you, Jacob? You got one of these fun stories? Um Yeah, I don't have, I don't have much. I only have ever really played Eddie and there's not a lot that goes into that. Usually I step into the bathroom for two seconds to put on pants and I'm good to go. So people haven't really run into me, but there was one time it was just after I had done Hoppity and I was going into the bathroom just to like be alone and chill and I was in a stall and this Irish dude came into the bathroom and you'll find out how I know he was Irish later in the story. He walks into the bathroom and I think he thinks he's alone because he, like, he's like racing. He's like, he's really got to go. He like, goes into one of the stalls at the end really, like, separated by two stalls. He has no idea about me. He plops down on the toilet super fast and the most, the most ungodly fucking shitting noise. 00 of C of poop and pee just flushing out of his system. And he's like, he's like screaming as he does it too. He's like letting out the best grow up. And after it's all out, like there's like five seconds of silence, he says to himself in this like really gruff Irish voice. He's like, oh that's a good shit. Well, I'm glad we could start and end those stories on the same note. So it turns out that it was just Savannah in there the whole time Savannah did take a dialect class and Ken sounded like a gruff Irish man. So I would not be surprised. Amazing. Oh man. Well, thank you to Diet Rice for writing in with your awesome story. Congratulations. You've got the biggest stick of the week. We love hearing about all your experiences, especially if they have to do with shitting violently into a toilet and getting to share them on our show. If you've got a story that you'd like us to share in our community news segment, please write to us. Just go to our website Rocky talk you podcast dot com and fill out our contact form. Can't wait to hear from you. And now guys, do you know what time it is? Time for a Nicky flavored segment with Nicky Sprinkles and the Cherry on Top. Nicky Sprinkles is my drag name. Wait, really? It is now. Uh OK, John, I'm gonna have to spoil a surprise for this week's. Nicky asks a question. I know you're moving soon. So I was on the prowl for a housewarming gift and of course, I was looking for Rocky stuff and holy shit. There was some really, really, really weird rocky stuff out there. You know, that's funny Nikki because I was also just shopping around for housewarming gifts for me and Aaron after they moved and I too found a lot of really weird Rocky stuff. So Aaron, maybe you can help us out here. Why in the fuck does some of this stuff exist? I mean, you'll need to be a little more specific than that. There is a ton of Rocky merchandise that's been produced over the years. Licensing was actually a really hot topic. Way back when. Yeah, they still sell rocky stuff at hot topic. That is not what I meant. I meant that at the start of the fandom like think 1970 75 76 77 like Fox had put very little effort into merchandizing for Rocky Horror. They had a failed movie at that point, they were struggling to get the film into theaters. They were not thinking about shirts and buttons and bumper stickers and the fans provided there was so much bootleg merchandise, whether it was buttons stamped out at home screen, printed logos on T shirts or audience participation scripts. You would see entrepreneurs trawling the lines that sold out midnight shows, hawking their handmade wares, buy a button, get a bag of rice for only 25 cents. But don't think Fox would leave money on the table for long. We all know how it turned out. There's so much Rocky merchandise out there and it's been pumped out for decades at this point. Shirts, vinyl books re re rereleased on new ultra blu-ray, special editions with Richard o'brien's colonoscopy footage. Wait, really? I don't, I don't have that one. I'll mail it to you. That's the stuff I want to talk about today. The weird shit that I came across. Some of the stuff that you could only go on to Amazon today and purchase is just, I don't know, I just, I don't know why it exists, but I need to. Right. So Aaron likes Rocky books. I know this. So I was searching, I didn't really expect to find anything because I mean, what was I going to stumble on that? Aaron didn't already have, but honestly, I wish I hadn't. Can we talk about this one book for one second? It's titled, it's just a jump to the left, the unauthorized guide to occult symbolism in the Rocky Horror picture Show by Isaac Weisel. Oh, yeah. I've got a copy of that. I, I think I bought 21 of them went to someone in a Christmas white elephant gift exchange a few years ago. Oh, I bet it did. This is uh quite the white elephant. Where does that come from? The book? No white elephant. I've heard it called a Dirty Santa. But what's it from? I'm sorry, a Dirty Santa Wikipedia confirms it also known as a Yankee swap or a Dirty Santa. The phrase white elephant is said to come from the historic practice of the king of Siam giving rare albino elephants to courtiers who had displeased him so that they might be ruined by the animal's upkeep cost, which is actually a great description for this Rocky book because anyone reading it and taking it seriously will be absolutely ruined. This is like run of the mill crazy conspiracy theory nonsense with all the trappings you would expect global cabals, satanic rituals, hidden meanings, overt anti-semitism. Oh, so it's like a Republican book. I wish you were wrong. Yeah, me too. No, this thing literally has chapters titled YOLO The Fun Before Nihilism, Nazi Space Aliens and the R H P S story, Sex Magic and, and that's Magic with AC K. I won't lie. That sounds better than most of the chapter titles from Real Rocky books. What with names and dates and facts and citations. Wait. So the Transylvanian's are Nazis. All right. I got to hear this. It, it, it's really sad because this guy does not make a good case. I could make a better case than he does. But OK, he ties together a bunch of nonsensical UFO accounts from the forties to Hitler and the Nazis occult obsession. He, he then uses Dr Scott as a link to Frank being in Nazi Germany, but he was sent forward in the future through a time traveling Nazi experiment. And then he connects Rocky's creation to the Nazi eugenics programs claiming that Magenta's line triumph of your will in response to Rocky's creation is a reference to the Nazi propaganda film, triumph of the will. He, he later spends whole whole while on the triangle on Frank's lab costume, but I won't even repeat that garbage because it's 100% emphatically proven that the triangle has absolutely nothing to do with Nazis of the holocaust. It was just something that was on the gown that they happened to use for the show. Absolute nonsense. I mean that all sounds fucking nuts, man. How could you do better fuck. I can do better Frank's jacket literally has a swastika on it. We've talked about it. It's on one of the patches on his sleeve. Hey, that's right yet, this guy doesn't even mention it once, but let's be real. This is not a book that is grounded in reality. It's like all the conspiracy theory occult nonsense out there. It's half baked theories tied together with extremely thin threads. A bunch of misunderstood facts. Some nonsensical numerology thrown in for fun and a bunch of horribly mangled science. So, it is a Republican book. Yes. Basically, there were a bunch of other weird books that I ran into a couple I know we've mentioned before. Like Confessions of a Transylvanian. Oh, yeah. Uh, Kevin the and Ron Fox is fictional but grounded in reality Tale of a teenager in South Florida in 1982 who joins the late night Rocky Horror cast at the local theater. You've talked about it before. It's not a real story, but it's based on real stories more like the inspired by true events, disclaimers that you get on docu dramas. I mean, I like this one a ton. It, it doesn't even really belong on a list of weird Rocky Merch. I genuinely sat down and read through this entire book in a single day's sitting. It's not highbrow literature or anything, but it's a fun story. And I really liked getting a chance to read some fiction about Rocky. Didn't you just post about another fiction, Rocky book the other day too? Um Was it Far From Grace by Brian Rock Straw? I haven't read that one yet. In fact, I had no idea it existed until I was browsing through a page on the old Rocky pedia in the archive dot org. Way back machine turns out just like confessions of a Transylvanian. You can actually still buy a copy really easily. Just going off the Amazon description. This looks like a real uh well, it sure looks like a book. It's got pages and everything. But what's it about? I, I told you I haven't read. It says it's about a Rocky Horror cast, alumni member who is reunited with members of the local Rocky cast and he gets sucked into a plan to blackmail the owner of their theater in order to save the building from being destroyed. So the script has me hating on this. But this is absolute like I feel like I ghost wrote this. Like, Rocky people write some weird fan fick but I'm fucking here for it. So there's a gun on the cover and its catch line is get this an old fashioned tragedy about love vengeance, blackmail and the Rocky horror picture show fucking cringe. I'll take 10. I'll have to give you guys a full book review when I get through it. This one looks really weird, but I mean, whatever, it's Rocky fiction, I'll read it while we're on the topic of books. I feel like we have to mention the tragedy of Rocky, the very picture of horror. That's the Rocky done as a Shakespeare book listeners might remember when we covered it back on our second episode and did a reading from one of the sections. That one was a trip funny. My cast director caught into this a little bit after we did and he did like a live stream about it, which was really fun. My cast actually wants to do like a live production of this when it's available to start doing theater again. But now we actually read excerpts of this Shakespearean tragedy during bedroom scene in lieu of the scene since we can't do it. And it's a lot of fun just because like, the audience really likes it and it's like quirky and weird, but it's still enough of the actual plot that you understand what's going on. So we get a lot of laughs. Oh, I fucking love that. That is a fantastic solution. Yeah, I might have some videos I can send to you. But I suppose the best part of all these books, if there is one is that you don't have to take our word about any of them, you can go buy every single one of these if you are so inclined. If you've read them, drop us a line with a review, it's actually kind of ridiculous. The amount of Rocky Merch that is out there today and it's just so stupid. I mean, we did an entire episode about the 2011 Rocky Horror picture show porno. You can still buy a copy on DVD today at retail price. Hey, don't knock it. There's some pretty good behind the scene. Special features on that thing. There's, there's even footage from the 35th anniversary convention. You can recognize all your friends in the background of the footage from the con only you. No, makes that through them too. My point stands, I think it might be safe to say that a lot of the rocky stuff that Aaron and Meg Buy fits into that white elephant category like I talked about it before. But you remember that Frank Sweetie Tank Top, the one that's like full bleed and it's just a massive picture of Frank. The one that only comes in like extra or extra, extra large and I am a small, sometimes a medium. I saw that they're putting that on other stuff now too and I think people have just grabbed it and put it on all of those print on demand sites. Oh man, don't even get me started about those print on demand t-shirt sites. It, it's bad enough that some people out there just steal people's artwork and resell it on shirts. They don't even try with half of this crap. Have you guys seen that 45th anniversary cast signature shirt? There's like four different versions of that thing and they are all fucking awful in their own way. Um Sweetie, what are you complaining the other day about need to get some new shirts? Yeah. So how much did you hate that? 45th anniversary one? Not that much good. I, I thought it was licensed. It looks licensed. You see, I mean, that's where they get you. If you haven't seen it before, it's the shirt that has the Rocky logo. It's got Frank on the lips with 45th anniversary in big text and the date 1975-2020 below. It's got all the cast members signatures. It's honestly not a horrible looking shirt. I kind of like it. Take a closer look at it though. How many signatures does it have? Six? And there are more than six members of the cast. It's got Peter Henwood, Tim, Susan, Barry Pat and Nell. So who's Miss uh Richard? Wow, 45th anniversary. And they forgot the guy who made the thing even stupider is the way that it's advertised. You guys have seen this often. It's a photoshopped image of Tim holding one up, but it's using a photo of Tim from before his stroke. I mean, these can't be licensed, can they? I, I don't think so. I mean, maybe one version of them are, but like I've seen a bunch of variants of it. There's one with gold letter ain't on red. There's one with a starburst behind Frank. The gold one makes an absolute mess of the logo do. It's got this Janky ass stroke and like this drop shadow behind it. It is completely against the brand guidelines that Fox published so many years ago. We still have access to those. Thanks to the work of Sean Hall. Rather, I should say that we used to have access to them. Sean's websites recently disappeared off the internet. I've archived a lot of it and I want to see about getting some of it out there again, but it's all in the archive dot org. Way back machine for now. That sucks. Hopefully some of that work can be preserved but back to the shirt. I mean, not everyone pays that close of attention to stuff like the fonts. OK. How about this? Then I even stumbled across a version of this shirt that replaces the top, the Rocky Horror picture show with just the Rocky Horror Show. It, it kind of looks like a rip off of the stage show logo. Maybe it's one of the international shows, but this one is just a whole different kind of stupid. That is dumb. It's a 45th anniversary shirt. The stage show didn't turn 45 in 20 20 and it's got Peter Henwood and Susan and Barry's signatures. None of whom were ever in a version of the stage show, right? And the image is the movie logo, right? Which I am so sure that every single on wish is paying royalties to use. That reminds me of that. Some of us grew up watching the Rocky Horror picture show. The cool ones still do a shirt that was making the rounds a few months ago. The one with the Mick Rock photo, you just know that wasn't officially licensed. You think Fox doesn't like to randomly use four different fonts on a shirt. Some versions of it even have the same sunburst pattern behind it that the 45th anniversary one does. I mean, I would love to be proven wrong but maybe not if this is what makes it past Fox quality assurance these days we're in for a bad time come the 50th art theft is actually like a really big deal in the community. And it's funny because when me or like the other graphic designer in F N S Heather makes anything that seems like it would be, you know, like pleasing to the eye. Our director Ryan actually suggests that we watermark. So if you look at like any of F N S S posters, if you have any or if you like see them on Facebook, if you look hard enough, you should see like a teeny tiny like Friday Night specials hidden in the picture somewhere just so that it doesn't get like ripped on ebay. I mean, that's what you got to do these days. Like any random Chinese company will just take the artwork and put it up on wish and like no control over it. Yeah, it's like a fun little game of spot the Friday night specials. It also makes it super hard to shop for Rocky people as I guess Meg knows all too well. I mean, I went on ebay earlier and that's just as big of a mess. There's so many autographs and everything is inundated with Etsy Store bootleg merch. I don't even know where to begin. Oh, Jesus Christ, don't even get me started on those autographs. There was recently a discussion on the Rocky Horror collected works Facebook group specifically about the hundreds of Peter Henwood autographs that have been flooding ebay are those all fake. The vast majority of them are fake. Tony Zuzu, a name that anyone familiar with collecting Rocky memorabilia should instantly recognize. Pointed out that one of the quick telltale signs that many of those autographs are fake is that Peter always underlines his name and there are maybe a handful out of the hundreds on ebay that compare favorably to known legitimate samples. I wondered that Peter doesn't have anything to do with Rocky anymore as near as I can tell. And I've never heard of him doing autographing sessions. I wondered where all these came from. Some guy's printer, apparently autographs in general are really sketchy to buy online. And honestly, personally, I don't see the point unless it's, you know, someone who's passed away for almost every single star. You can get a reputable autograph from their website or at a convention appearance and tons of them do the online conventions or meet and greet sessions where you can also get autographs. You've just got to be real careful with that stuff. Always ask for certificates of authenticity but realize that's not a guarantee either. So, what else have we got? What other weird Rocky Merch can you buy right now? I don't know if these are still made, but I always thought that those Rocky horror trading cards were kind of weird. Like I get the baseball players and Pokemon cards and whatever we have packs of them that F N S sells at our show. And when we do events like at the punk rock flea market, I bet they sell pretty well. People love collecting cards. I say as I currently have all 151 original Pokemon cards from the bass set, jungle set and fossil set with all of the appropriate get holographic cards that are sitting in a custom frame right above my recording studio right now. Fuck you, bro. Fuck. Yeah, bro. And every time I get sad, I just look up at it, realize that I wasted $1200 putting that together and I get sadder, but Pokemon is at least a game Rocky horror cards. They're just screenshots from the movie, right? Like what's the point? You know, there's actually some interesting or not depending on how you come down on this facts that I can tell you about the Rocky World trading cards. Uh There's actually two different sets of trading cards that were released. I am not surprised at all that you know that, I mean, I do have an unopened box of each of the two different sets. Listen, I am a sucker for cards that come in packs. It is my inner trading card game nerd like he loves cracking some magic packs. Yes. Yeah, Jacob knows what I'm talking about. Oh, my God, you said that there were two different versions of these. Yeah. Ok. So there was the first version that was released between 1975 and 1980. That was by the Fantasy Trade card company. It was a set of 60 cards and it was sold in six card packs with 36 cards to a box. They also sold a complete set of all the cards in case you wanted to defeat the whole purpose of it and not actually collect them. Those are the ones that you probably have selling at your show. It seems like that completely defeats the point looking back kind of. But these, these were great for their time. Some of the shots on the cards, I mean, albeit at a low grainy resolution were stuff that people had never seen before. A lot of it was still from the movie, but you had a few unique pictures, some of wedding scene and some of the Transylvanian. Uh they were also really handy for costume reference photos or just to take to conventions and have the stars sign them also because they were cheap, they made for good candidates to chop up and use them for fan signs or for promo artwork. And what about the second version was that just a print? No, that, that one was entirely new in 1995 for the 20th anniversary comic images released a set of 96 cards. Uh six of these were ultra rare chrome plated, uh three of sweet tea and three of Brad and Janet. There was also this like limited edition medallion card that's just the appeal, collecting something scarce, well, artificially scarce. So this was put out by comic images. I'm sure almost nobody out there is familiar with the company. They went under several years ago, but they put out a ton of these kinds of non sports trading cards. Uh They also dabbled in trading card games as well. They were the designers of the World Wrestling Federation card game. So I was never super into wrestling like the TV show, but this game had some amazing mechanics. They pretty much ruined it later in its run by having ultra exclusive mechanically unique cards as collectible items. You literally had a huge advantage just by getting cards that represented like title belts or other things and you could only get them in very limited ways. I feel like we've strayed off topic or not. I think the moral is Aaron will buy anything that reminds me of that S N L skit from the eighties, the one with Meatloaf and Tim Curry, Tim and Meets One stop Rocky Horror Shop. What is this? So in 1981 Meatloaf guest it on S N L and as one of the skits, they got him and Tim curry to do a Rocky horror spoof. It was long and not really all that funny but actually incredibly poignant to this conversation. So in the skit, meat and Tim were selling satirically overpriced official Rocky horror props like water pistols, newspapers and toast for just eight bucks a slice, which is what they announce to the midnight market as an ironic illustration of the endless moneymaking possibilities seized by studios. Another of the sketch's jokes have meat and Tim Hawking licensed Rocky horror costumes and a book outlining all the callback lines to scream during the movie. These were obviously absurd jokes. Half the fun of dressing up for Rocky was putting it together yourself and a book that outlined the spontaneous callbacks was ridiculous but those exist, I know they exist, Aaron has them. They're official costumes endorsed by Fox and the official audience participation book. These are real things. Life imitates art. They're more like sell anything to make a buck. I mean, you aren't wrong. Rocky fans are an endless fountain of cash. I mean, there are many in the community that literally revel in buying the same movie over and over just because it has different box art in the last 50 years. If there was something to stick the lips and logo on, it probably happened. In fact, I I know it happened cosmetics, casino chips condoms. I mean, those are just the Seas condoms. Oh, man, they're actually a pretty popular item that gets sold at the stage show. They were especially prevalent during the nineties. That makes sense. The nineties had the whole safe sex message really being picked up all over the media and even being incorporated into the Rocky horror show because, you know, AIDS, tons of these condoms were sold over the years. Two of the most I wanna say hilarious were in 1999 for the west end season at the Victoria Palace Theater starring Jason Donovan as Frank. There were multiple versions. One in a rapper with Jason's coming. Are you scrawled on the side? And the second that was attached to sticks of Rocky horror rock candy with have a sucking good time scrawled down the length classy and that's our show. We want to thank Diet Rice for writing in to share their humongous along with us. We also want to thank Jacob for joining us on air. If you've got a question, you'd like us to answer on air for Nicky asks a question or some community news you'd like us to talk about or even a cool story to showcase your magnum dong to the entire community. We'd love to include it in our show. Just go to our website talky podcast dot com and fill out our contact form to share with us. We all really love getting to hear about the cool shit you guys have been working on. We're totally obsessed with all the Rocky horror projects that have been floating around out there and we really enjoy getting to share your work with the whole community. 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You should say it really, really, really wrong. So then Adrian yells at you and some weird rumors of some weird man. Oh my God. Now I can't even say it right. Rumors of some weird men shit between Rod Jane and Freddie sprang up some time in the tabloids around 2008. Can we say it and not pronounce the word shit? I was about to say what you were, you were totally American and that when you said shit, you would shit, shit. Oh my God. Mark began seeing Jane in 1985 and rumors of some weird MNA shit between Rod Jane and Freddie sprang up in the tabloids sometime around 2008. Better. Fuck you all. And dragging his name through the mud just like his long. No. Yes, shit, man. Everyone is just out here shitting on Barry and dragging his name through the mud just like his long pendulous Foli dragging through the mud as he walks pantsless over a pile of mud shop owner, Sean Watson runs the shop. Yes, he does. That's right. Whoever. That's right. Meg He does. Indeed. One Twitch streamer. John streams on Twitch. Hey, waitress, Nicky is a waitress at Stewart's. Uh what else we got? Uh program software developer, Aaron Tidwell developed software. Wow. Yeah. What? Our weekly World News. It's a UK tabloids. It's a US tabloid. Yeah. Bad boy. Hello. That was which one is the UK tabloid? I don't know. I google if nothing come up. Weekly World News, it's US from 1979 to 2007. I used to buy them at the grocery store every week. I used to read highlights. Ok. Ok. I'm not doing that. I'm just, I'm not, I'm not doing that. I'm not saying that, but you're such a good listener and always listen to my many, many, many, many, many, many deeply crushing soul repelling problems and you give me such good advice. Yes, I sure do. God. What am I? Oh, no, just waiting for John. You fine. I just think of this. I'm just waiting for you to just get your full reaction out. I just, I need a little time. This really needs, I need to sit with this. Why wouldn't you just kill the animal if it costs a lot to keep? Because that what? It was a gift from a King Jacob. You can't just kill things that kings give you. I mean, you absolutely can. You're just not trying hard enough if you think you can. Why didn't your parents kill you if you cost too much to keep? Because once I was in the pageant circle, I was making a lot more than, than the apple sauce it took to feed me every week. I mean, so are these white elephants? I guess so. I guess so the nineties had the whole like safe, the nineties had the fuck me. Classy, classy, classy, classy, classy. I just wanted to give her options. Yo, I have been farting this entire recording. So meg I'm so sorry if you just hear my, I'm going to turn the volume up on all of your farts and do a, that was like your burp reel. That's just farts. I hope you can hear them. I have a question. You bye bye.